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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and that is what the gun haters fear-not enough dead innocents to serve as a tool to cause the masses to hate gun ownership.
    Slyfox doesn't care if they die as long as they have a relationship with their teacher first.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Whenever people start talking about children, you start obsessing about relationships and holding hands....
    invoking Barney and singing the Happy Song is more effective than say the former Green Beret who was one of my history teachers pulling out the 45 he kept in his office drawer (thank god it was a private school) and shooting some cowardly asshole like Lanza I suppose.

    hell, several of us who were 18 year olds our senior year had guns in our cars=me, because My father belonged to a club next to the school that had a skeet range and the village's gun club was 4 minutes away and my family was members. another boy lived in another nearby town where his father was the solicitor and he'd keep a pistol in his car for practice at that town's police range. several boys were avid hunters and one girl later was on the USA Modern Pentathalon team and I'd give her a ride to gun club-she and her 22 pistol

    no one ever got shot or even threatened but if some Lanza type asshole had shown up, I am sure someone would have shot him



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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Honestly, I don't believe that. I work with some, and have many times in the past. I think some just try to convince themselves of that.
    Funny thing is for a short time SD was thinking of putting NG in the schools as a public feel-good measure. I called my armory and made sure my name was on the list.

    The public wouldn't trust me as a with a hand gun, but a machine gun is ok.

    It's just clothing. I'm the same person in uniform that I am in jeans and hoodie.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    I guess if some children would see me in a more negative light simply at the knowledge that I had a gun on my person, I'm ok with that because chances are I'm not going to get along with everyone in the world anyway; there are bound to be some personality differences.

    On a related note, let's hope no student ever assaults another with any shop tools....

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the only time when a gun changes a dynamic is when the gun is actually used.
    Even you cannot believe this to be true. If guns only change dynamic when they are fired, why bother arming our military until we know there's a reason to use their weapons.

    You're getting desperate now and even you have to know it. The gun will always change the dynamic of a situation. To argue otherwise is to simply a waste of time.

    My interaction with non hostiles is no different when I am armed vs not armed
    But how those people react to you is different.

    if you actually carried weapons you would understand that
    And if you taught my kids, you would understand how silly you sound trying to argue something you clearly know nothing about.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Whenever people start talking about children, you start obsessing about relationships and holding hands....
    Yes, I'm an educator. A big part of my job is forming quality relationships with students which allows me to teach them and for them to learn from me. Not every relationship has to be friendly, but all need to include respect. And the respect needs to be for me, not the gun.

    I suggest you and your buddy simply stop posting in this thread and ask for someone who actually knows what they're talking about to debate your side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Now see? This post of your...which I've heavily snipped...is a prime example of someone who doesn't want to discuss...but only wants to obfuscate.

    You see, I never said that you asked me to apologize to you, yet you imply that I did.
    Uhh, yes you did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I have no reason to apologize to you. Heck, I wasn't even TALKING to you when I made my comments. So...unless you are the sock puppet of the person I WAS talking to, you need to get off your high horse, dude.
    Don't blame me for your inability to remember your own posts.

    With your use of liberal/socialist debating tactics (which I've seen numerous times from your ilk, btw) there really is no point in wasting time with you.

    You are dismissed.


    Do you ever get tired of being wrong? You're now wrong about something YOU said. I'd be embarrassed.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and that is what the gun haters fear-not enough dead innocents to serve as a tool to cause the masses to hate gun ownership.
    What's sad to me is I think you truly believe this nonsense. What's it like to live with such hate? I probably do far more work with children every day than you do in a month, and the very idea I don't care about their health is not only insulting, it's downright disgusting. Shame on you.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Slyfox doesn't care if they die as long as they have a relationship with their teacher first.
    At this point, you have shown yourself to no longer be interested in any civil discussion, and instead have resorted to incredibly offensive statements. You no longer have any credibility in this discussion, and I will no longer reply to your asinine statements. I find your comment to be disgusting, especially since I probably do far more for children and their safety than you. Shame on you, as well.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    the long winded nonsense is just that.

    how is the dynamic changed if a teacher is carrying concealed unless the teacher has to use the weapon

    I will be back tomorrow-see if you can actually answer that question



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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    At this point, you have shown yourself to no longer be interested in any civil discussion, and instead have resorted to incredibly offensive statements. You no longer have any credibility in this discussion, and I will no longer reply to your asinine statements. I find your comment to be disgusting, especially since I probably do far more for children and their safety than you. Shame on you, as well.
    actually Jerry's comments are almost always cogent. He is well informed on the issue

    and you are the one who made "relationships" an issue and claim a concealed weapon would change that.

    and I honestly believe that gun haters often love massacres that can be used to emotionally stir up the masses against gun ownership



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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Yes, I'm an educator. A big part of my job is forming quality relationships with students which allows me to teach them and for them to learn from me. Not every relationship has to be friendly, but all need to include respect. And the respect needs to be for me, not the gun.
    The problem you and I are having here is we're making different assumptions about the situation before we even read eachother's posts. I'm picturing a compact or sub-compact pistol concealed-carried in the pant pocket, under a tucked shirt, in an ankle holster, or in a shoulder holster if the teacher is wearing, say, a sport jacket. How would the student even know you were armed in the first place for it to be an issue?

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    At this point, you have shown yourself to no longer be interested in any civil discussion, and instead have resorted to incredibly offensive statements. You no longer have any credibility in this discussion, and I will no longer reply to your asinine statements. I find your comment to be disgusting, especially since I probably do far more for children and their safety than you. Shame on you, as well.
    I mean, let's be honest, you never thought I had any credibility in the first place. I certainly never thought you had any. Anti-gunners are wrong by default. Being anti-gun is identical to being racist in every way. I'm not here to have a meaningful exchange with them, I'm here to beat them down.

    You support gun-free zones, I oppose them. We aren't ever going to agree, or even agree to disagree, because that means allowing the other to exist, and I seek your termination; the termination of all gun free zones.
    Last edited by Jerry; 04-05-13 at 12:54 AM.

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