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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Let alone the insurance should the teacher shoot the wrong person and the school get sued.
    Any required personal insurance is likewise the gun owner's responsibility just like car insurance is the car owner's responsibility just like home-owner's/renter's insurance is the individual owner's responsibility.

    I fully support a Federal Castle Doctrine law exempting any and all public and private property owners from liability.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Training takes time and costs money. The teacher is not the owner of the gun, so insurance is not their problem. The money should not be stolen from the childrens' education to pay for this NRA stunt.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
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    Lanza chose Sandy Hook for several reasons. Familiarity with the layout and the fact it was a gun-free zone were the top two.

    His actual goal was to be the most prolific killer in history [the highest score if you will] Having no one to even slow him down made this an easy task.

    All these BS excuses of what 'might' happen (if teachers etc. are armed) only further endangers our children, families and friends.
    Regulating guns is more practical and less expensive then arming teachers and expecting an average person with a glock to kill somebody with a bushmaster. Most people went into to teaching for many reasons, but few envisioned defending the school till their death.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Training takes time and costs money. The teacher is not the owner of the gun, so insurance is not their problem. The money should not be stolen from the childrens' education to pay for this NRA stunt.
    Since when is the teacher not the owner of the gun?

    I'm pointing to states which already allow adults to lealy carry a gun in schools as my real example. What example are you using?

    I retoast this for reference:
    Oregon Firearms Federation

    Putting aside for a moment that Oregon does not issue "concealed weapons permits," this school just like every other public school in the state, has NO authority to forbid a person with a concealed handgun license from entering school property. While both Oregon and Federal law forbid people from being on school property with firearms, concealed handgun license holders are exempt from both laws.Oregon statute 166.370 forbids firearms in "public buildings" which schools are, but subsection B says "this section does not apply to:... (d) A person who is licensed under ORS 166.291 and 166.292 to carry a concealed handgun"

    As we have said elsewhere, if you have a child you maycarry unto public school property.
    Everything is on the individual's dime. The taxpayer doesn't pay for any part of it.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
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    an educator and I cannot think of a worse idea than arming the teachers. It amazes me people actually think putting guns in the hands of teachers is safer than removing the most dangerous guns from the populace. Don't teachers already have enough to do without worrying about being the school security guard as well?

    EDIT: This person did think of a worse idea (though I'm pretty certain the post was made tongue-in-cheek):
    Agreed. I am also glad that I don't have kids to worry about.

    Going to school should be a positive experience. And for all the criticism our schools get and as much as we want to improve education, I don't see how remolding schools so they resemble bomb shelters is going to help. When I went to high school I did worry about shootings. That's a lot if damn stress.

    Telling children as young as 5 that they are not safe in school seems damaging to me. Just regulate the most dangerous guns, and improve safety but don't send children the message that schools are death zones. This is America, not some worn torn third country. We shouldn't be worried about these shootings at all. It shouldn't be happening.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Agreed. I am also glad that I don't have kids to worry about.

    Going to school should be a positive experience. And for all the criticism our schools get and as much as we want to improve education, I don't see how remolding schools so they resemble bomb shelters is going to help. When I went to high school I did worry about shootings. That's a lot if damn stress.

    Telling children as young as 5 that they are not safe in school seems damaging to me. Just regulate the most dangerous guns, and improve safety but don't send children the message that schools are death zones. This is America, not some worn torn third country. We shouldn't be worried about these shootings at all. It shouldn't be happening.
    You folks are just going off the deep end tonight.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    NRA talking points. We don't need guns in public schools unless you are agreeing that the government needs to now use drones on the hate groups and gangs in this nation.
    I actually Googled "NRA talking points" and couldn't find them. Could you link to where you're reading the NRA talking points please? Is a subscription required or what?

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Agreed. I am also glad that I don't have kids to worry about.

    Going to school should be a positive experience. And for all the criticism our schools get and as much as we want to improve education, I don't see how remolding schools so they resemble bomb shelters is going to help. When I went to high school I did worry about shootings. That's a lot if damn stress.

    Telling children as young as 5 that they are not safe in school seems damaging to me. Just regulate the most dangerous guns, and improve safety but don't send children the message that schools are death zones. This is America, not some worn torn third country. We shouldn't be worried about these shootings at all. It shouldn't be happening.



    Thank you for the news from La-La Land. Now, back to the real world...

    "Regulating the most dangerous guns" will work about as well as our current efforts to keep people from getting meth and crack and heroin.... that is to say, not at all.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    being afraid that a student might get hold of a teachers weapon, the weapon might fire accidently or that it might intimidate their child is a lot different than hating someone because of the colour of their skin.
    how realistic is that-almost zero. I have carried a gun since 1983 on and off, never had one go off in the holster.



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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    NRA talking points. We don't need guns in public schools unless you are agreeing that the government needs to now use drones on the hate groups and gangs in this nation.
    more oozing rot about the NRA. We don't need anti gun drivel being spewed when it is based on hatred and lies. You want more victim disarmament zones so there will be more massacres that you can use to disarm people who don't buy into your far far wrong agenda



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