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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    NRA talking points. We don't need guns in public schools unless you are agreeing that the government needs to now use drones on the hate groups and gangs in this nation.
    There actually are parents from Newtown who think it would have been nice to have at least one armed person at his/her child's school on one particular day.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    "unless the person holding it is negligent" So a underpaid overworked teacher then?

    As for the intimidation aspect the idea of walking into a school past guards could easily spook a lot of younger kids and of course a teacher shouting at them whilst carrying could also scare a child or make a parent uneasy. I personally grew up on military bases so walking past armed guards was an everyday occurrence but that doesn't mean it wont spook out other people and given the fact public schools are paid for by the tax payer they do have the right to a say in the matter.

    We already have armed guards in many schools. My son's High School has one; an off-duty police Resource Officer. They don't seem overly intimidated by him... when I go by I often see students talking with him.

    As for teachers, I would personally not advocate FORCING them to be armed... oh no, not at all. Only if they do so willingly, pass the course/test for a concealed carry permit, and possibly an additional class focused on safety issues they would be dealing with in schools. Then the teachers would be carrying CONCEALED.... which means the students don't know who is or is not armed... and that puts a lot of the intimidation factor out, among other things.

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    Is the NRA going to pay for all these new guns and training training? Also for the extra teachers needed to cover for the teachers taken away from the classroom to be trained? Who pays for the time of the committees set up to select which guns are to be deployed, and where?
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Is the NRA going to pay for all these new guns and training training? Also for the extra teachers needed to cover for the teachers taken away from the classroom to be trained? Who pays for the time of the committees set up to select which guns are to be deployed, and where?
    Let alone the insurance should the teacher shoot the wrong person and the school get sued.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    There actually are parents from Newtown who think it would have been nice to have at least one armed person at his/her child's school on one particular day.
    Who? NRA talking point 2,999,999....
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    So...you would discriminate against underpaid overworked teachers? Do you consider them a second class citizen whom you don't deem worthy of the protection of our 2nd Amendment?

    What about overpaid underworked teachers? Should they be allowed to carry in the school?
    Call me old fashioned I just teachers should teach kids and leave the Die Hard stuff to the paid professionals.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Call me old fashioned I just teachers should teach kids and leave the Die Hard stuff to the paid professionals.

    Didn't you know? ALL red-blooded Americans are John McClaines at heart!


    As I say, it's different here. There's a lot of things we don't "leave to the paid professionals".

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Call me old fashioned I just teachers should teach kids and leave the Die Hard stuff to the paid professionals.
    And church-goers should just go to church instead of saving a hundred of their fellow worshipers. I understand.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Who? NRA talking point 2,999,999....
    Mr. Mark Mattioli, who lost his 6 year old son on that terrible day, for one. But, you would have known that if you had read the article in the OP's post.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Is the NRA going to pay for all these new guns and training training?
    No one is asking the government to pay for any of this. The gun owner pays all their own bills just like a car owner pays for all their own bills just like a home owner pays for all their own bills, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Also for the extra teachers needed to cover for the teachers taken away from the classroom to be trained?
    Training occurs after hours and does not interfere with a teacher's duties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Who pays for the time of the committees set up to select which guns are to be deployed, and where?
    No such planning occurs. Only small-arms are involved so there are no extenuating tactical considerations. This isn't like a squad who need to organise a linear ambush. These are the same normal people who are already carrying a gun around you and your family in other public places.

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