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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    lol except that gay people and minorities are fellow human beings where as a Gun is a weapon....
    All 3 are protected under the Constitution. That's why I see all such parents in the same light of bigotry.

    You had asked me "what about them", and no you know "what about them". Parents who don't want their children attending a school where legally own guns are carried, are wrong, and should either correct their view of the world or move away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    All 3 are protected under the Constitution. That's why I see all such parents in the same light of bigotry.
    being afraid that a student might get hold of a teachers weapon, the weapon might fire accidently or that it might intimidate their child is a lot different than hating someone because of the colour of their skin.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    being afraid that a student might get hold of a teachers weapon, the weapon might fire accidently or that it might intimidate their child is a lot different than hating someone because of the colour of their skin.

    The possibility exists... but we already have quite a few Universities that allow CCW on campus, and a few grade schools where teachers are armed, and so far these things have not been a problem.

    Weapons don't generally fire accidentally, unless the person holding it is negligent. Spontaneous discharge is largely a myth.

    IMHO, children who are intimidated by guns need to be suitably educated to cease from being intimidated... at least when the person with the gun is there to protect them, not harm them.

    I realized the UK is a very different culture and all this might be a little hard for you to relate to...

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    being afraid that a student might get hold of a teachers weapon, the weapon might fire accidently or that it might intimidate their child is a lot different than hating someone because of the colour of their skin.
    And there's people who think gays will convert their children to homosexuality, or that a gay teacher is necessarily a pedophile. Same ignorant bigotry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    I definitely think all schools should have at least one person armed, but I have mixed feelings about whether teachers should be able to carry in class. What do you think?
    I don't think so. This is the gun corporations doing what they are doing worldwide...providing guns to both side of the war and gaining profits from doing it.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    I don't think so. This is the gun corporations doing what they are doing worldwide...providing guns to both side of the war and gaining profits from doing it.


    Stuff and nonsense. This is citizens and parents desiring that the schools where their children spend so much time are properly equipped to protect them against nutters.

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Stuff and nonsense. This is citizens and parents desiring that the schools where their children spend so much time are properly equipped to protect them against nutters.
    NRA talking points. We don't need guns in public schools unless you are agreeing that the government needs to now use drones on the hate groups and gangs in this nation.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    NRA talking points. We don't need guns in public schools unless you are agreeing that the government needs to now use drones on the hate groups and gangs in this nation.

    I was unaware that I was a spokesman for the NRA... I shall have to contact them about my back salary owed me in that case. :

    Nor does drones and hate groups or gangs have anything to do with the discussion.

    But this is no surprise, you rarely seem to be able to conjure up a coherent argument in these discussions...

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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    The possibility exists... but we already have quite a few Universities that allow CCW on campus, and a few grade schools where teachers are armed, and so far these things have not been a problem.

    Weapons don't generally fire accidentally, unless the person holding it is negligent. Spontaneous discharge is largely a myth.

    IMHO, children who are intimidated by guns need to be suitably educated to cease from being intimidated... at least when the person with the gun is there to protect them, not harm them.

    I realized the UK is a very different culture and all this might be a little hard for you to relate to...
    "unless the person holding it is negligent" So a underpaid overworked teacher then?

    As for the intimidation aspect the idea of walking into a school past guards could easily spook a lot of younger kids and of course a teacher shouting at them whilst carrying could also scare a child or make a parent uneasy. I personally grew up on military bases so walking past armed guards was an everyday occurrence but that doesn't mean it wont spook out other people and given the fact public schools are paid for by the tax payer they do have the right to a say in the matter.
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    Re: NRA unveils plan for armed guards in schools it says 'will save lives'

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    "unless the person holding it is negligent" So a underpaid overworked teacher then?

    As for the intimidation aspect the idea of walking into a school past guards could easily spook a lot of younger kids and of course a teacher shouting at them whilst carrying could also scare a child or make a parent uneasy. I personally grew up on military bases so walking past armed guards was an everyday occurrence but that doesn't mean it wont spook out other people and given the fact public schools are paid for by the tax payer they do have the right to a say in the matter.
    So...you would discriminate against underpaid overworked teachers? Do you consider them a second class citizen whom you don't deem worthy of the protection of our 2nd Amendment?

    What about overpaid underworked teachers? Should they be allowed to carry in the school?
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