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    UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade | Fox News

    The U.N. General Assembly has overwhelmingly approved the first U.N. treaty regulating the multibillion-dollar international arms trade.

    The resolution adopting the landmark treaty was approved by a vote of 154 to 3 with 23 abstentions.

    The 193-member world body voted after Iran, North Korea and Syria blocked its adoption by consensus at a negotiating conference last Thursday. The three countries voted "no" on the resolution.
    This is unlikely to be ratified by the US Senate since the Senate has already voted not to do so.

    The NRA sees the treaty as a threat to 2nd Amendment rights although treaties don't trump the Constitution. It's not clear to me how this treaty would be a hinderance to American gun owners.

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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    And I say good. Such a large industry that has the potential to facilitate large scale death needs to be regulated on a global scale.


    Those citing that it would override the 2nd Ammenment or "hurt our business" are selfish, moronic and are totally missing the point of this treaty and its potenital to save lives.
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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    But what about my precious right to bear and sell arms ****ing tanks to terrorists and warlords!?
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    UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

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    But what about my precious right to bear and sell arms ****ing tanks to terrorists and warlords!?
    Ya, so let's get rid of our right to defend ourselves against those "terrorists and warlords". Since its not likely that they will disarm either way (except forcibly), so let's make sure that they have free reign. I mean gotta make sure that nobody except government can resist these evils.

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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Ya, so let's get rid of our right to defend ourselves against those "terrorists and warlords". Since its not likely that they will disarm either way (except forcibly), so let's make sure that they have free reign. I mean gotta make sure that nobody except government can resist these evils.
    This treaty will not get of the right of someone to have a weapon. It will try to regulate the global arms trade. The Constitution trumps all treaties and on top of that, you have the right to have a gun, but you don't have the right to sell that gun to a warlord.
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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    If Iran, North Korea and Syria are agin it, Im for it.
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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

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    This is unlikely to be ratified by the US Senate since the Senate has already voted not to do so.

    The NRA sees the treaty as a threat to 2nd Amendment rights although treaties don't trump the Constitution. It's not clear to me how this treaty would be a hinderance to American gun owners.
    It wouldn't be.

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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    The greatest concern among the gun owners I talk with, including myself; is that this is a stepping stone. Right now the UN wants to track and verify all international arms shipments from dealers and manufacturers. How long is it until the UN decides it would just be easier to track every firearm manufactured worldwide from cradle to grave? At that point there become serious Constitutional infringement concerns and questions.

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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    Treaties certainly don't trump the Constitution, but they do have the force of law:

    "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." Article VI.

    Naturally there is plenty in that clause to debate because it may also indicate that if a state has a law that a treaty would violate, would that treaty not be permitted. Hmmmm.

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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

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    This is unlikely to be ratified by the US Senate since the Senate has already voted not to do so.

    The NRA sees the treaty as a threat to 2nd Amendment rights although treaties don't trump the Constitution. It's not clear to me how this treaty would be a hinderance to American gun owners.
    It doesn't. It's just another example of how the NRA is doing no gun owner any favors. Their obnoxious protests and stupid antics are going to eventually hurt my rights.

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