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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    You pay the NRA to think for you?

    Eh, no...

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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    No worries... you added in more detail than I did...
    Allow me to bump again. I am a member of the NRA and I believe the Treaty has ZERO bearing on domestic sales or private firearm ownership. In this case I see the NRA as a mouthpiece for the Arms Industry not the private citizen. The treaty is very clear on where it ends. There is no slippery slope, no camel's nose in the tent. The problem with that argument some always drag into these dicussions is only total lawlessness is the answer as ANY law, rule, or regulation can be decried as the first step on a slippery slope, etc...

    Anywho, nice to meet you...

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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Eh, no...
    Then read the proposed treaty and think for yourself rather than let the NRA think for you.
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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Truth be told, right now, no. Not that I won't, I can't. Haven't read the legislation. I just know if Obama wants it, the NRA don't, I'm gonna stick on the side of the good guys. I pay them membership dues for a reason.
    It's rare to see someone so readily admit they don't know what the **** they're talking about, and that they have such a blind partisan bias that they are against something purely because a Democrat is for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Eh, no...
    You just declared that you've done exactly that regarding this treaty.
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    UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It does NOT set up a framework for domestic registration of weapons. Only for registration of weapons imported/exported. This has no impact at all on domestic gun laws on any Member State.
    No, the UN just has this labelled as a "disarmament" treaty, and you're going to tell me that this is not the intention?!?

    How gullible do you think people are??

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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Then read the proposed treaty and think for yourself rather than let the NRA think for you.

    I have been a member of the NRA for 18 years. We have a relationship built on trust. I trust they are going to do what advances themselves, and what advances themselves serves me. I don't allow the NRA to think for me, I do trust them however to hold a position which will best serve my interests as it regards owning firearms.

    This is twice now that you've been provocative, so to you I say good day!
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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's rare to see someone so readily admit they don't know what the **** they're talking about, and that they have such a blind partisan bias that they are against something purely because a Democrat is for it.



    You just declared that you've done exactly that regarding this treaty.
    Honesty. I'll admit does come a premium nowadays, I try to employ it whenever I can. I've no partisan bias. I've watched the steady, methodic measures Obama has taken to strip us of our Rights so I know that when it comes to anything having to do with guns, his position is a bad position.

    I've done no such thing. It is called delegating. The NRA is far more knowledgable on the matter and as I stated to the other, rather uncouth gentleman -- we have a relationship built on trust.

    Since you seem rather unseemly yourself, to you I also say good day!

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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    No, the UN just has this labelled as a "disarmament" treaty, and you're going to tell me that this is not the intention?!?

    How gullible do you think people are??
    Have you read the treaty? Didn't think so.
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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I have been a member of the NRA for 18 years. We have a relationship built on trust. I trust they are going to do what advances themselves, and what advances themselves serves me. I don't allow the NRA to think for me, I do trust them however to hold a position which will best serve my interests as it regards owning firearms.

    This is twice now that you've been provocative, so to you I say good day!
    And this is the third time you have shown a lack of willingness to think for yourself. Read the treaty, then get back to me.
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    Re: UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Then read the proposed treaty and think for yourself rather than let the NRA think for you.
    I think what he was saying is most people do not have the time to read these documents as these things happen and absolutely no clout to do anything about them personally. Claiming that he pays the NRA to think for him is ****ing weak. People buy in to to the NRA as a go between that actually does have contact with our law makers. I have membership with NFIB as well. I don't have time as a business owner to track and stay on top of every piece of legislation that may affect my business AND operate my business. So let's drop the "OMG you pay someone else to think for you!" alarmist BS. Put some pants on and get something slightly more involved than working at McDonalds and you may find organizations like this are pretty handy. Not all of us have the free time to chase down every issue. BTW neither does the President. He has cabinet members for a reason. It's called delegating responsiblity. It's something busy people do.

    Given all that, I'm looking for a link to the actual treaty so that I can read it later and can't seem to find one. Anyone got a link? PDF would be great. I'd like to see what it really says in the final form.
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