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Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

the funny thing about all this is.... there is no evidence the AB had anything to do with this.

the white supremacist who was killed in the shootout wasn't an AB.. he was a member of the 211 crew... some upstart white supremacy Colorado prison gang.

some cops said that a lot of AB's live in that county... and now people are running around thinking it was the AB's.

it could have been an AB... it could have been a non affiliated asshole.... hell, it could have been anyone ... even a crip or a blood, or a latin king...... nobody knows, but everybody's knees are jerkin'

the ab is a terrorist group.so is the republic of texas.one is a terrorist group based on race,the other is based on the belief that texas is still a republic seperate from the us.i dont recall any laws saying that either cant be in both groups,but from what ive seen the republic of texas group is the most organized and vile enough to pull off assasinations like this,as they have in the past.they also have a belief part of colorado still belongs to texas.
 
they have commited terrorist acts,but they fit no real right wing definition,as their ideals hold no traditional conservative values.

Rightwing does not mean the same thing as conservative, and every group that has identified their politics have identified it as rightwing.


since when was changing a,merica into something new that never existed right wing??????or is it just something people like you use to define anything you hate.the biggest hint is that they branch off the german nazi party,hence why they are called neo nazis,because they morphed the nazi ideal into their own ideas,again hardl conservative unless you consider right wing as anything new and fanatical.

AB isn't neo-nazi. They are white supremacists. There is a diference.
 
Rightwing does not mean the same thing as conservative, and every group that has identified their politics have identified it as rightwing.




AB isn't neo-nazi. They are white supremacists. There is a diference.

first the aryan brotherhood is very closely related to neo nazis,many of nthe members are neo nazis.

second if a group claimsto be right wing,thats doesnt make them right wing,especially if they hold no conservative values,or even go by the traditional definition referring to social heirarchy.in essence the aryan brotherhood fits neither,as they tend to seek a equal society of white christians,and the eradication ofall other races.which fits neither definition unless you count hitlers ideal as traditional,in ehich it wasnt in any way shape or form,just simply fringe lunatic ideas spawned by a man who fits the description.
 
the ab is a terrorist group.so is the republic of texas.one is a terrorist group based on race,the other is based on the belief that texas is still a republic seperate from the us.i dont recall any laws saying that either cant be in both groups,but from what ive seen the republic of texas group is the most organized and vile enough to pull off assasinations like this,as they have in the past.they also have a belief part of colorado still belongs to texas.

you give way to much credit to RoT militia... they're nobody.
they haven't committed any assassinations.... a few were arrested for threatening to assassinate Clinton, though.
 
you give way to much credit to RoT militia... they're nobody.
they haven't committed any assassinations.... a few were arrested for threatening to assassinate Clinton, though.

not sure about that,we had a big brief oin them during a texas national guard meeting,and they confirmed they have committed numerous assasination,mostly small members.'

in terms of organization,they arent on par with lets say al quaeda,but they are leaps and bounds ahead of the aryan brotherhood,which is mostly prison killings.heck the rot has had it out for high ranking members in texas and colorado for a while.why peopledeny they can pull it off is beyond me,they hwve the man power and resources,and all the pieces fit the puzzle.
 
There are plenty of examples of when guns do help people save themselves against rampaging lunatics, you just don't hear about those.

10 Stories That Prove Guns Save Lives - John Hawkins - Page 2

as usual you confuse LEGAL GUN OWNERSHIP which prevents far more deaths than it causes versus ILLEGAL gun ownership which is the opposite

Your solutions, of course involve decreasing the FORMER while PRETENDING your silly proposals will decrease the latter

gun restrictionists caused good people to DIE

it's so entertaining to watch a liberal **** on dead people for their political agenda.... and you never fail to entertain.


anyways... why do you believe a gun is a guarantee against being a victim?... what led you to believe in this fantastical notion?

have you sent your gun yet.. or are you going to be greedy and keep it?




Harvard Injury Control Research Center -

"1. Where there are more guns there is more homicide.....

2. Across high-income nations, more guns = more homicide.....

3. Across states, more guns = more homicide....."

Harvard School of Public Health » Harvard Injury Control Research Center » Homicide
 
not sure about that,we had a big brief oin them during a texas national guard meeting,and they confirmed they have committed numerous assasination,mostly small members.'

in terms of organization,they arent on par with lets say al quaeda,but they are leaps and bounds ahead of the aryan brotherhood,which is mostly prison killings.heck the rot has had it out for high ranking members in texas and colorado for a while.why peopledeny they can pull it off is beyond me,they hwve the man power and resources,and all the pieces fit the puzzle.

according to everything i've read on the web, they are pretty much dead.... it was never a huge badass group to begin with
I can't find anything referencing assassinations, except for the threats towards Clinton.

from the sounds of it all, the AB wives could handle this cute lil Militia

the AB's are like 20,000 strong... and violent as hell....I don't think RoT holds a candle to the AB's
hell, I'd bitch-slap a RoT militiaman... but I ain't messing with AB's, not without a ton of back up and a way out of town.
 
have you gotten rid of your gun yet?.....


Yep, just shipped them off to Texas, in care of the DA's office.

I'm sure my single shot .22/.410 over and under will be a big big help to them.
 
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Harvard Injury Control Research Center -

"1. Where there are more guns there is more homicide.....

2. Across high-income nations, more guns = more homicide.....

3. Across states, more guns = more homicide....."

Harvard School of Public Health » Harvard Injury Control Research Center » Homicide

i put no faith in such a study,since it gives no actually evidence or references for the study.case and point switzerland has more guns available than america,yet is ranked among the safest countries in the world,and oh btw they are mostly fully auto assault rifles.just that country alone destroys the gun argument.further it doesnt list which civilized countries it used.

countries like the uk and australia hae almost no gun availability,yet australia ranks higher in gun crimes per capita than the us,.and the uk ranks higher in overall crime and violent crime.on average they have to be using countries like germany as their proof,which holds nothing to gun availability,but rather has low overall crime due to better economic stability and less ethnic fighting.

if you would please list what harvard lists as thosecountries with lower crime,i can guarantee i can debunk those clasims easily,or better yet let me explain empirical results.empirical data is simply nothing more than data collected to support or refute existing ideas.in science any scientist who doesnt cross examine all e,pirical data and research cause and effect effecting that data is kicked out of the scientific community.any politician who uses empirical data while blatantly ignoring all outside factors is believed as true.

the difference being one has to account for all facts while policitians and economists are allowed to cherry pick facts that support their data while ignoring the broader picture,especially when it counters theor argument.
 
why tthe aryan brotherhood only suspect????in all truthfullness the ab is mostly a bunch of tweeked out white supremesists who really arent very good at pulling off plots without gathering attention.lets face it,some guy smoking meth for 3 weeks without sleep isnt going to be in any stable mind to plot anything and get away with it.

in texas theres a terrorist group known as the republic of texas,which is in support of secession but thats not why its a terrorist group,its labeled as a terrorist group because instead of petitioning and attempting reforms,they have in the past used assasination,extortion,blackmail and other terrorist acts as a means to achieve their goals,while other secession groups in texas still findtion within established law.


amazingly if you go to the wiki poage for republic of texas group,youll see about one of the members fighting over aspen colorado,arguing that aspen colorado was originally texas territory,which in itself links colorado and texas together in these assasinations.
The guy who shot the Colorado prison official was a white supremacist who fled into Texas where he was shot. Also...well here:
Kaufman County, Texas, on edge after 2 prosecutors killed - CNN.com
Authorities insist that they just don't know who may be behind the killings.

However, McLelland's office was one of numerous Texas and federal agencies involved in a multiple-year investigation that led to the 2012 indictment of 34 alleged members of the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas, including four of its senior leaders, on racketeering charges.

At the time, Assistant U.S. Attorney Lanny A. Breuer called the indictment a "devastating blow" to the organization, which he said used threats and violence, including murder, against "those who violate (its) rules or pose a threat to the enterprise."
 
according to everything i've read on the web, they are pretty much dead.... it was never a huge badass group to begin with
I can't find anything referencing assassinations, except for the threats towards Clinton.

from the sounds of it all, the AB wives could handle this cute lil Militia

the AB's are like 20,000 strong... and violent as hell....I don't think RoT holds a candle to the AB's
hell, I'd bitch-slap a RoT militiaman... but I ain't messing with AB's, not without a ton of back up and a way out of town.

well the texas national guard and the us govt hold the rot as a bigger national threat than the ab.they are fairly secret though nowadays since they areunder federal watch,but they havent died.
the ab is organized yet unorganized,while the remaining rot is fairly organized,and from i have seen on briefings is quite capable,still strong,and has carried out assasinations in the past.yes they arent as strong as they used to be,but they in the last year or so have been recruiting like mad in texas.and again in our terrorist briefs the ab isnt even mention,they are considered nothing more than a prison gang,while the rot is ranked very high on the list.
 
i put no faith in such a study................


Most of us put much less faith in unsubstantiated opinion on a political forum.
 
The guy who shot the Colorado prison official was a white supremacist who fled into Texas where he was shot. Also...well here:
Kaufman County, Texas, on edge after 2 prosecutors killed - CNN.com

what i got from your link was that they suspected the former white supremecist who was killed to be linked between the interstate murders,but no real proof.


and again doesnt debunk the fact that the ropt and the ab dont really have rules about crossing into eachothers groups,as one is a race group the other seccessionist.
 
Most of us put much less faith in unsubstantiated opinion on a political forum.

yet you ignored the rest of the post and only posted what was politically expediant,which was to not post any proof or even the ecidence used for such a study,as your link provided none.

i can just as easily prove pirates declining in numbers caused global warming by the same logic,but anyone who actually examines anything beyond a cherry picked empirical study would know its bs.


so link their study evidence or else i say

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my story is just as valid as yours,as it blatantly ignores all outside factors and refuses evidence and only shows what i want it to show,despite reality.
 
yet you ignored the rest of the post and only posted what was politically expediant,which was to not post any proof or even the ecidence used for such a study,as your link provided none.

i can just as easily prove pirates declining in numbers caused global warming by the same logic,but anyone who actually examines anything beyond a cherry picked empirical study would know its bs.


so link their study evidence or else i say

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my story is just as valid as yours,as it blatantly ignores all outside factors and refuses evidence and only shows what i want it to show,despite reality.


Thanks for your unsubstantiated personal opinion, I choose the extensive Harvard study.
 
Yep, just shipped them off to Texas, in care of the DA's office.

I'm sure my single shot .22/.410 over and under will be a big big help to them.

yeah, and i'm sure you are telling the truth here :lol:

why on earth do you own a weapon of mass destruction like that?... don't you know it makes you less safe?
pffft, you're just like all those mass murderers .... needing a big bad gun to make you feel manly.

with your history of being anti-government, i think law enforcement should come collect your weapons from you.... you're danger to yourself, and school children everywhere.
hell, I'll bet you bought that child exterminating death machine without a background check!
 
Thanks for your unsubstantiated personal opinion, I choose the extensive Harvard study.

problem was it wasnt extesive at all,it refused to link any credible sources,or even the data it used for its conclusion,even a moron can tell you its not the source that matters,its the data within the source.your source gives no real data and simply claims its right,ye can provide no real data to back it up.


i would love to debate the harvard guys who came up with such an ignorant study,as they would be banned from harvard when a backwoods gillbilly like me owns the living crap out of them with comon knowledge.i would have supspected a harvard study to have provided more than a study no one can back or prove designed to convince the ignorant.
 
yeah, and i'm sure you are telling the truth here :lol:

why on earth do you own a weapon of mass destruction like that?... don't you know it makes you less safe?
pffft, you're just like all those mass murderers .... needing a big bad gun to make you feel manly.

with your history of being anti-government, i think law enforcement should come collect your weapons from you.... you're danger to yourself, and school children everywhere.
hell, I'll bet you bought that child exterminating death machine without a background check!

Yeah boy, the single shot .22/.410 over and under is one bad MF! No wonder it is the weapon of choice in taking out Texas officials! Oh wait, I've never heard of one being used in a crime. :cool:
 
Thanks for your unsubstantiated personal opinion, I choose the extensive Harvard study.

actually the researches have been rather open about the fact that they can't distinguish between a rise in violence and people arming themselves for protection from it, to an increase in guns leading to a corresponding rise in violence
 
problem was it wasnt extesive at all,it refused to link any credible sources,or even the data it used for its conclusion,even a moron can tell you its not the source that matters,its the data within the source.your source gives no real data and simply claims its right,ye can provide no real data to back it up.


i would love to debate the harvard guys who came up with such an ignorant study,as they would be banned from harvard when a backwoods gillbilly like me owns the living crap out of them with comon knowledge.i would have supspected a harvard study to have provided more than a study no one can back or prove designed to convince the ignorant.


Yeah, why don't you conduct your own study, debate the Harvard guys, and come back and report on it. :cool:
 
actually the researches have been rather open about the fact that they can't distinguish between a rise in violence and people arming themselves for protection from it, to an increase in guns leading to a corresponding rise in violence

More unsubstantiated opinion............
 
More unsubstantiated opinion............

no, it really isn't. it's just a reality of the study and an inherent short coming of it. If you want, I think factcheck.org has a fact sheet available where they discuss the issue.
 
Yeah, why don't you conduct your own study, debate the Harvard guys, and come back and report on it. :cool:

so your saying you still cant back up the harvard study with any empirical evidence,because they provided none,yet you support them because its harvard so they cant be wrong.


theres this thing called a logical fallacy know as appeal to athority,in which you are guilty of.you in no such way have backed your claimsother than claiming its harvard,in which you appealed to authority in which you feel harvard is the authority,yet neither you nor the group that conducted the study can back upo their claims in any way,in a debate sense that puts you in an extreme level of ignorance.


if you feel like debating instead of appealing to authority and runing away from evidence demanded,come talk to me,otherwise you are currently less educated and skilled than even a highschool debate team,as well as the group who conducted that study,as anyone with half a brain can cross examine empirical evidence.the only reason not to post it would be that such empirical evidence blatantly is wrong when crossexamined,and said group wanted to influence the ignorant masses with their logic rather than inform them with truth.
 
Yeah boy, the single shot .22/.410 over and under is one bad MF! No wonder it is the weapon of choice in taking out Texas officials! Oh wait, I've never heard of one being used in a crime. :cool:

sorry champ... all guns are designed to kill... that''s their only purpose.
why do you possess a killing machine?... are you compensating for a small penis?

what happened to the handgun you claimed you owned?.... did you get rid of it?... or is it that you have 2 weapons of mass destruction in your household?



btw, you don't know how much pleasure it brings me to watch an anti-gun nut defend having his own firearm...it brings light into my day.
 
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