I was reading through this thread (admittedly didn't read it all), and I just wanted to point why the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas was suspected in this case. Kaufman county has been working on prosecuting a raketeering case against members of the Aryan brotherhood of Texas. The fear of this connection is so great, that the assistant US attorney removed himself from the case;
I've seen a lot of political debate as to the side of the isle the people doing these murders belong to. It's seems quite pointless to me, as they are clearly not interested politics or governement at all. For the same reasons I don't hold Islamic people responsible for the actions of extremists, I would never never venture to blame a political party for the actions of Aryan extremist. Just something to think about.Federal prosecutor over Aryan Brotherhood racketeering case in Houston withdraws due to security concerns
Jay Hileman, an assistant U.S. attorney in Houston, has withdrawn from a large Aryan Brotherhood of Texas racketeering case due to security concerns.
Richard O. Ely II, a Houston defense attorney who is representing one of the 34 defendants, said Hileman sent him an email on Tuesday, informing him that he was off the case.
Ely said another Justice Department prosecutor from Washington D.C. will be assigned to the case to replace Hileman.
That person will join David Karpel, an attorney with DOJ’s gang unit, who is already assigned to the case. Ely said the case will continue to be prosecuted in Houston.
The Aryan Brotherhood of Texas is a key focus in the investigation of the recent murders of the Kaufman County district attorney and one of his prosecutors. No evidence has emerged tying the prison gang to the killings. No one has been charged or named as a suspect.
District Attorney Mike McLelland and his wife, Cynthia, were found shot to death in their homes on Saturday. About two months earlier, felony prosecutor Mark Hasse was gunned down in a parking lot near the county courthouse.
Ely said Hileman, who he called a good friend of his, is likely concerned about his family after the killing of the DA and his wife.
“He’s obviously made a decision based on something,” Ely said.
Ely said he received death threats when he was a prosecutor.
“Law enforcement takes it very seriously,” he said.
"....The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty...." -Jefferson 1787
I think if someone feels the need to attach a political lean to the AB, anarchist would be the best fit.
Killing a District Attorney is a direct assault on our legal system, and is a Terrorist move not a political one.
I'm going to have to agree with the folks saying it's a criminal matter. I'm not comfortable with terrorism being loosely applied. If they are killing government officials in order to implement some racist society that's terrorism because they have virtually declared war on our society. If this is some criminal retribution it should be handled by law enforcement.
The last thing I want is the already over expansive government powers to deal with terrorists organzations to be even expanded more under a loose definition of what terrorism is.
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“Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes
Your words about how they are also criminals is just more of the same debunked nonsense.
Most members of congress are criminals first and foremost. It doesn't mean they can't be right or left wing
There is no question the AB has roots in RW white supremacism. It basically formed as a unifying force for every white-hater group known to man. But, it's first and foremost a prison gang.
The majority of ABT members were expressive approvers who joined the group for protection
from what they perceived as a surge in black on white assaults (particularly sexual assaults).
Many previously unaffiliated white inmates felt the need to associate themselves with the
Brotherhood in response to the unsubstantiated declarations by AB members that black inmates
were indiscriminately victimizing white inmates.
The group morphed into a criminal enterprise...while the RW extremists faded away.Several ABT members believed that status rested more in economic power than in the group's
ability to terrorize blacks. The social dynamics that drove the white extremist movement within
the prison system had begun to change. The social organization of the prison no longer provided
enough chaos to consistently fuel the ABT as a right-wing extremist movement. By March of
1988, prison gang coordinators were listing one-fifth of the total ABT membership as "exmembers".
The group that was once feared as the most violent and unpredictable within the
system had degenerated into a very small number of what Lipset and Raab refer to as joiners
allied with several groups of expressive approvers who dislike blacks and most other minorities
but are not motivated by a comprehensive loyalty to the group.
Think about it. It's like I said back around page 1: Nobody cares about politics when money is involved except to use it as a tool to recruit members and hoodwink the stupid. It's about the money.
"This racial **** has the heat on us to begin with... TAB is an organized crime family
not the KKK or the Aryan Nations." He further states: "This turmoil from within has
got to stop... no more power plays and no more Aryan Nation's ****."