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    Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down

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    Nothing like a War between White Supremacists and LEO. Taking out an officer of the Court in the state of Texas has got to be the first steps toward committing suicide.
    You mean "committing suicide."
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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

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    That they are a criminal gang not a political movement. Thus calling them "Right Wing" is simply wrong.
    Um....
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    True, in that they are indeed the polar opposite to the Far left.
    This part of the conversation is done, you answered your own question.
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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Their ideology is that white Aryans should rule the world. That is political
    Yes and yes. Also, without a doubt, prison gang Aryans work hard to try ruling the prisons, and they probably believe it's their god given right to do so. That doesn't make them an arm of the Right Wing. I'm not even sure they qualify as Right wing at all--they are a prison gang.

    What sticks out to me is that they make up 1% of the prison population but account for 20% of the crime. They are busy little beavers. I guess, I just don't see them as politically motivated--racially motivated and united under the white-power banner, yes.

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    That doesn't make them an arm of the Right Wing.
    That was not what was being determined, what was being determined was whether the AB is a rw extremist group.

    You already conceded that.
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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um....


    This part of the conversation is done, you answered your own question.
    Polar opposite in that they are the anti-hippie. But, I don't see the AB as the antithesis of an Eco Terrorist. It's not like the AB beats up protesters or plants bombs in abortion clinics...hell, they could probably give a rat's ass about the unborn. Just because the AB burns gays and lynches blacks doesn't mean they want to cut down the forests on earth day.

    They are a criminal gang, based on hate group ideology. If that is your criteria for RW, then yes. They fit. I just see RW as being part of a bigger picture.

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Yes and yes. Also, without a doubt, prison gang Aryans work hard to try ruling the prisons, and they probably believe it's their god given right to do so. That doesn't make them an arm of the Right Wing. I'm not even sure they qualify as Right wing at all--they are a prison gang.

    What sticks out to me is that they make up 1% of the prison population but account for 20% of the crime. They are busy little beavers. I guess, I just don't see them as politically motivated--racially motivated and united under the white-power banner, yes.
    "an arm of the Right Wing" suggests that there is some unified group. There isn't

    And there's nothing in the definition that disqualifies a prison gang.

    You are just raising red herrings which have nothing to do with determining their political lean. Face it! You were put off by their description as a prison gang more interested in making money which led you to think they weren't political and now you're not willing to admit that your assumption that a prison gang can't be political was wrong.
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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    That was not what was being determined, what was being determined was whether the AB is a rw extremist group.

    You already conceded that.
    No I didn't. They are an extremist hate group motivated more by money and power than ideology. They are definitely not Left. And, they may even self-identify as Right Wing. But, they are just a prison gang which defines itself by race. White supremacists, yes. Political Wingnuts, no.

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    No I didn't. They are an extremist hate group motivated more by money and power than ideology. They are definitely not Left. And, they may even self-identify as Right Wing. But, they are just a prison gang which defines itself by race. White supremacists, yes. Political Wingnuts, no.
    The Koch brothers are motivated more by money than political power, but there's no denying that they are right wing. I suspect that many politicians are motivated more by money than anything else (including ideology) but that doesn't mean they can't be placed on the political spectrum

    White supremacy is a political ideology. It is more than just being racist.
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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Polar opposite in that they are the anti-hippie. But, I don't see the AB as the antithesis of an Eco Terrorist. It's not like the AB beats up protesters or plants bombs in abortion clinics...hell, they could probably give a rat's ass about the unborn. Just because the AB burns gays and lynches blacks doesn't mean they want to cut down the forests on earth day.

    They are a criminal gang, based on hate group ideology. If that is your criteria for RW, then yes. They fit. I just see RW as being part of a bigger picture.
    You keep on changing the goalposts and ignoring the definitions we have to agree upon.
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    Calamity, I hope you are familiar with the concept of a political map, where one axis describes economic beliefs and the other axis describes social freedom? Since we have little to go as far as economic beliefs (though one could argue they operate with a extreme libertarian view, ie no govt interference), we have to place them primarily on social standards. Clearly, they fall on the extreme right.

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    True, in that they are indeed the polar opposite to the Far left.
    You cannot agree upon a definition and say you were talking about "hippies".

    Stop being so frigging deceptive, you agreed they are a rw extremist group, live with your admission to the stated definitions and move on. This backtracking and trying to rewrite what you said is just bs.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    No I didn't. They are an extremist hate group motivated more by money and power than ideology. They are definitely not Left. And, they may even self-identify as Right Wing. But, they are just a prison gang which defines itself by race. White supremacists, yes. Political Wingnuts, no.
    You just keep on trying to backtrack to previous positions were you again are trying to extract the group from their stated poli-sci positions. If you do not want to discuss their poli-sci positions....THEN DON'T....but you have and you are and you cannot now play this "but they have no political views". They clearly do, you already recognized them as being " the polar opposite of left wing".

    FFS, quit running away from what you already admitted.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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