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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Calamity, I hope you are familiar with the concept of a political map, where one axis describes economic beliefs and the other axis describes social freedom? Since we have little to go as far as economic beliefs (though one could argue they operate with a extreme libertarian view, ie no govt interference), we have to place them primarily on social standards. Clearly, they fall on the extreme right.
    True, in that they are indeed the polar opposite to the Far left.

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They are not a purely criminal organization. As I have repeatedly pointed out to you, they have engaged in political crimes that had no economic motive and have a political ideology.

    However, there is nothing I can do to convince some who is determined to ignore the evidence of these political crimes.
    The AB has not, to my knowledge, participated in any crimes not directly related to profit, revenge or retribution...exception being perhaps strictly racially or homophobic driven acts of violence. But, the Mafia did that stuff too. Were they Far Right? Of course not.

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

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    In that I can easily define what they are not. Yes. But, they are not like McVeigh or even Koresh, in that their political objectives are on the table. They are apolitical, but they do fall into several Right Wing categories.
    The definition of far right does not require AB to be like McVeigh or Koresh.

    And AB is not apolitical. They have a specific and explicit view and philosophy of how people should be ruled. It's becoming obvious that you are going to continue to ignore their political actions and beliefs in order to maintain your belief that they are not political.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    In that I can easily define what they are not. Yes. But, they are not like McVeigh or even Koresh, in that their political objectives are on the table. They are apolitical, but they do fall into several Right Wing categories.
    No, they cannot hold poli-sci views and be "apolitical".

    If they fall into "several " rw categories and are "not left wing", then you are still placing them on a politcal map.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    The Ab has not, to my knowledge, participated in any crimes not directly related to profit, revenge or retribution.
    That's because you continue to ignore the documented fact that they have participated in crimes that had no relation to profit, revenge or retribution.
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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    True, in that they are indeed the polar opposite to the Far left.
    Well, there you are then, they are then extreme right wing.

    QED
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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The definition of far right does not require AB to be like McVeigh or Koresh.

    And AB is not apolitical. They have a specific and explicit view and philosophy of how people should be ruled. It's becoming obvious that you are going to continue to ignore their political actions and beliefs in order to maintain your belief that they are not political.
    Dude, the Brotherhood is in an alliance with the multi-ethnic Juggalos, who in turn are tied to the Bloods and Cripes. So, how dedicated to their ideology can the AB really be?

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Leaders of Racist Prison Gang Aryan Brotherhood Face Federal Indictment | Southern Poverty Law Center

    Once they're released, some Aryan Brotherhood members commit terrible hate crimes in the name of Rahowa. The most infamous racially motivated murder since the civil rights era occurred in 1998, when three white men, two of them ex-cons, tied a black man, James Byrd Jr., to the back of their pickup truck with a logging chain, dragged him to death over three miles of country roads outside Jasper, Texas, and then deposited his shredded remains in front of a predominantly black cemetery. One of the ex-cons testified at his trial that he and one his accomplices had both joined the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas for protection from black inmates while they were incarcerated. When he rejoined society, his arms were covered with Aryan Brotherhood tattoos, including one depicting a black man being lynched. "You look at his arms," the trial prosecutor said, "and you see what's in his heart."

    In October 2001, another member of the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas who was enraged by the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks gunned down a Bangladeshi gas station attendant simply because the victim "looked Arab."
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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Dude, the Brotherhood is in an alliance with the multi-ethnic Juggalos, who in turn are tied to the Bloods and Cripes. So, how dedicated to their ideology can the AB really be?
    Lets put it into terms you like to use.....

    Hitler signed a peace pact with Stalin, so how dedicated to his ideology could he be?
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That's because you continue to ignore the documented fact that they have participated in crimes that had no relation to profit, revenge or retribution.
    Latino street gangs are attacking African Americans, running them out of neighborhoods. Does that now make them Right Wing? The Italian Mafia will kill associates who are gay. Does that makes the Gambino Family a RW hate group?

    No. They are criminal gangs.

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