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Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

There was also the attempt to equate them to the aryan nation

No there was no attempt to "equate" the two.

I was the one who referred to AN, and I merely pointed out that the two had strong links.

And even if had tried to equate the two, that would not be partisanship because AN is not a political party
 
And even if had tried to equate the two, that would not be partisanship because AN is not a political party

At the time you were claiming they were a rw domestic terrorist organizationand used the alledged "strong ties" to support that. So yes, that is trying to use the ans political agenda to establish an equatable one for the aryan brotherhood
 
At the time you were claiming they were a rw domestic terrorist organizationand used the alledged "strong ties" to support that. So yes, that is trying to use the ans political agenda to establish an equatable one for the aryan brotherhood

Again, AN is not a political party so any linking of the two has nothing to do with partisanship.

Try to pay attention to what is being discussed. What we are discussing here, before you intruded with obtuse points, are the false claims of partisanship.
 
Again, AN is not a political party

No they just have a clear and overt political agenda that drives and shapes their application of violence.

Hence why people correctly refer to them as terrorists
 
No they just have a clear and overt political agenda that drives and shapes their application of violence.

Hence why people correctly refer to them as terrorists

Yes, they have a political agenda

Yes, they are terrorists

No, they are not a political party
 
Interesting...and at the same time...very...sad. On the different news sites and this site, 22 pages in on a case we know virtually nothing about there are raging battles on gun control, democrats, republicans, white gangs, hispanic gangs, Bush, Obama, and for some odd reason the Koch brothers.

And again...we know virtually nothing about this case.
 
There was also the attempt to equate them to the aryan nation

In prison, the AB absorbs people from the Aryan Nation, Neo-Nazi, skinheads and countless other white supremacist orgs. The Aryan Brotherhood became the pit in the cesspool, if you will. All the sludge rolled down into it.
 
In prison, the AB absorbs people from the Aryan Nation, Neo-Nazi, skinheads and countless other white supremacist orgs. The Aryan Brotherhood became the pit in the cesspool, if you will. All the sludge rolled down into it.
Shhhhh....don't start making more connections between the AN and the AB.
 
In prison, the AB absorbs people from the Aryan Nation, Neo-Nazi, skinheads and countless other white supremacist orgs. The Aryan Brotherhood became the pit in the cesspool, if you will. All the sludge rolled down into it.

No doubt, but this was done with the explicit attempt to assign a political agenda to the AB, on par with the AN. To basically say "well if the AN is a terrorist organization then clearly the AB is"
 
No doubt, but this was done with the explicit attempt to assign a political agenda to the AB, on par with the AN. To basically say "well if the AN is a terrorist organization then clearly the AB is"

If the attempt was explicit, as you claim, then you should be able to quote where someone "assigned a political agenda to AB" or said "well if the AN is a terrorist organization then clearly the AB is"
 
Straw, I id'ed the AB as a rw extremist group, just as you have.
I know some of those guys. They are are definitely not right wing. They are the total opposite.
 
No doubt, but this was done with the explicit attempt to assign a political agenda to the AB, on par with the AN. To basically say "well if the AN is a terrorist organization then clearly the AB is"

Right. Which is another reason why I objected to the mischaracterization. The AB is nothing but a collection of white prisoners for the purpose of creating an imposing force, in a prison environment.
 
Right. Which is another reason why I objected to the mischaracterization. The AB is nothing but a collection of white prisoners for the purpose of creating an imposing force, in a prison environment.

Given the # of false accusations about the motives behind stating the fact that AB is a rw organization, I'm beginning to think that those making the accusations have a political agenda of their own

After all, why would someone repeatedly deny a well-documented fact about AB's rightwing leanings or use the statement of facts to claim that there is any motivation other than a desire to state the facts?
 
I know some of those guys. They are are definitely not right wing. They are the total opposite.
Yes, some...

I'm sure a lot of them are liberal (snark).

Of course the point is.....that their constitution describes what the core beliefs are.
 
Yes, some...

I'm sure a lot of them are liberal (snark).

Of course the point is.....that their constitution describes what the core beliefs are.
And none of those core beliefs are even remotely right wing.
 
"The semi-automatic weapon found at the site where Adam Lanza shot to death 20 children and six adults, for example, is a variant of a type of gun developed for troops during Vietnam.
yeah... so?

"It is one of a variety of assault rifles that militaries of the world developed," Tom Diaz, a policy analyst for the Violence Policy Center, tells Fresh Air's Terry Gross, "when they realized that most soldiers do not, when they're engaged in combat ... take accurate aim, do not fire at long distances, but rather just spray bullets in the general direction of the enemy at short to medium range. ... oldiers are not marksmen, and they tend to just fire in bursts at ambiguous targets and, in fact, most battlefield injuries are the result of just being where the bullet is and not someone actually aiming at you."
Tom Diaz is quite obviously a dolt.
first, the rifle was not developed by " militaries of the world".. it was developed by Eugene Stoner in the mid 50's
I can tell you what Marines do in combat.. Diaz gets it wrong....unless he's talking about a machine gunner who is charged with suppressive fire.
if that is htae case, he's wrong.. siple because ARs do not carry m-16 variants.....
and yes, Marines ARE marksman..Diaz is absolutely clueless.

stop listening to people who don't know what they are talking about... it's bad for your brain.
yup... this guy is a dolt...







That will ultimately be decided by voters.
the value of my life is not up for popular vote.... sorry.
 
more appeals to the masses. Most sporting firearms have some ancestory traceable to the military. Using the term "assault weapon" is silly because the military definition of assault requires fully automatic weapons. None of the things your side whines about are fully automatic and thus cannot possibly be "assault weapons" which is a military term of art (and has nothing to do with the scary criminal assaults the ARC wants people to fear when answering polls)



Do you know why high capacity magazines were developed for the military?

Jerry knew the answer to this question. Let's see if you do.
 
Do you know why high capacity magazines were developed for the military?

Jerry knew the answer to this question. Let's see if you do.

I don't know what that has to do with anything. I know why cops carry them. Same reason I do. More is better when dealing with deadly threats. Many people miss. Even I have been known to miss.

you seem to want law abiding people to be at a disadvantage when confronted by armed criminals. I suspect it is because anti gun extremists like lots of cases where innocent people are murdered. You use their deaths to try to disarm people like me
 
yeah... so?

Tom Diaz is quite obviously a dolt.
first, the rifle was not developed by " militaries of the world".. it was developed by Eugene Stoner in the mid 50's
I can tell you what Marines do in combat.. Diaz gets it wrong....unless he's talking about a machine gunner who is charged with suppressive fire.
if that is htae case, he's wrong.. siple because ARs do not carry m-16 variants.....
and yes, Marines ARE marksman..Diaz is absolutely clueless.

stop listening to people who don't know what they are talking about... it's bad for your brain.
yup... this guy is a dolt...







the value of my life is not up for popular vote.... sorry.

Tom Diaz is one of the worst POSs in existence. He is the same asshole who whined that pistol makers were making SMALLER pistols after the ten round magazine law was passed. HE WAS UPSET that the makers scaled down their weapons rather than only selling pistols designed for 15-18 round magazines. He said that stuff like the GLOCK 26 (10 shot magazine-about half the size of the 17 round GLOCK 17) VIOLATED THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW

he is fungus
 
Tom Diaz is one of the worst POSs in existence. He is the same asshole who whined that pistol makers were making SMALLER pistols after the ten round magazine law was passed. HE WAS UPSET that the makers scaled down their weapons rather than only selling pistols designed for 15-18 round magazines. He said that stuff like the GLOCK 26 (10 shot magazine-about half the size of the 17 round GLOCK 17) VIOLATED THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW

he is fungus

the anti-gun brigade should be proud to have this guy as a spokesman...hell, they seem to love their standard bearers being complete dolts.
 
the anti-gun brigade should be proud to have this guy as a spokesman...hell, they seem to love their standard bearers being complete dolts.

He's an assclown. HE should be forced to wear signs saying he is completely disarmed and likes rough sex
 
Reduce, dilute, repeat.

Notice, they are not even a terrorist group any longer.

Well...except for allegedly killing the two members of the Texas DA office in that particular county, they are not being accused of terrorism. I know of no AB sanctioned terrorist attacks on citizens outside the prison walls...possible exception being loved ones and family of gang members. Retribution is not terrorism.
 
And none of those core beliefs are even remotely right wing.

Now that's stretching it a wee bit. They are definitely Far Right in their leaning.
 
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