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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Of course you would say that. You are determined to minimize every fact that refutes your claims.
    1) I'm pretty sure I'll manage being proven wrong on the internet.

    2) No, a bad argument is a bad argument. This is true regardless of what I want



    The link I posted describes AB as engaging in terrorism. The SPLC says their activities are primarily criminal, but that they also engage in terrorism
    Nope, it described an alleged incident where someone asked about explosives to attack federal building. Building that house investigative agencies and agencies that handle prosecutions at the federal level, So even if true, it could still be a criminally motivated act






    No, my link describes three terrorist crimes, and the one you refer to is explicitly describe as terrorism
    Only one alleged incident involved actual planning from the organization, as opposed to activities carried out by it's members.

    If someone from the cartels decides to kill a republican because he personally hates his politics, that doesn't change the fact the cartels are a criminal gang and are not really interested in politics, beyond how it impacts their criminal activities

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    1) I'm pretty sure I'll manage being proven wrong on the internet.

    2) No, a bad argument is a bad argument. This is true regardless of what I want


    Nope, it described an alleged incident where someone asked about explosives to attack federal building. Building that house investigative agencies and agencies that handle prosecutions at the federal level, So even if true, it could still be a criminally motivated act








    Only one alleged incident involved actual planning from the organization, as opposed to activities carried out by it's members.

    If someone from the cartels decides to kill a republican because he personally hates his politics, that doesn't change the fact the cartels are a criminal gang and are not really interested in politics, beyond how it impacts their criminal activities
    The article describes three instances of terrorist activities, and unlike the drug cartels, the AB has an identifiable political component.
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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

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    The gun nuts just completely ignore it and keep on with their false claims that more guns makes people safer!
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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    "Texans love their independence - and their guns."

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Holy Smokes!
    Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after deputy gunned down - CNN.com



    Other news sources are tying the Aryan Brotherhood in as likely suspects for both prosecutor killings, and the one of the prison chief in Colorado..
    Texas DA and Wife Killed, Possible Aryan Brotherhood Link | Crooks and Liars
    Wait, this is Texas??

    I thought with all the loose gun laws in the lone star state, and their 2nd amendment freedoms etc., that this never happens down there.

    What went wrong?

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by mr4anarchy View Post
    Wait, this is Texas??

    I thought with all the loose gun laws in the lone star state, and their 2nd amendment freedoms etc., that this never happens down there.

    What went wrong?
    Didn't draw fast enough? If only he had carried his gun to the door...

    Not to make too much light of it, it is ironic that this happened in fully armed Texas.

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post

    why should we even consider what you have to say, especially given the clear political motivations you two have?
    This is what I find so weird. You see, when someone say to me "well, X is a lw extremist group and did Y", I say sure, they did that, but that has no reflection upon my beliefs since I don't believe that violence is required to reach the goals i have.

    But when we show that the AB is an extremist rw group who falls within the definition of domestic terrorists, you don't say what I say above....you instead spend all of your time in this thread denying that they are a rw extremist group, denying that they are terrorists.

    One has to wonder.....what is your agenda, your motivation?

    Again, I have no problem that their are extremist lw groups that reach the level of terrorists, I always find it so weird how conservatives will spend so much time writing as if their side is pure, without stain.

    It is so ridiculous....and pointless.
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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    But when we show that the AB is an extremist rw group
    see, that is your problem, you did no such thing. And your motivation is outlined by your need to define them as a political rw terrorist group, when the experts in the firld describe them as a criminal gang

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    see, that is your problem, you did no such thing.
    Of course we did, both myself and Sangha. I presented the definition accepted by thrill, we showed the constitutional articles fulfilling those definitions, that was settled pages ago, yesterday.


    And your motivation is outlined by your need to define them as a political rw terrorist group, when the experts in the firld describe them as a criminal gang
    Well dear, I'm not having to appeal to authority, I am showing that they are RWA's and fit the definition of terrorists, both arguments you lost yesterday.

    The point of my last post was totally avoided by you, and that ironically goes straight to the point you brought up....you can't even begin to address the fact that you are still so obsessed with keeping your own view of conservatism squeaky clean that it brings you to this state of denying constantly what the AB is. It would be, in your view, a stain upon your ideology. It is sad, since I don't think it would reflect upon you...unless you share some of their views.

    When a person accuses others of certain "motivations", but can't come clean in describing his own beliefs AND continues to defend a extremist rw group, well I'm afraid it just shows ones true colors.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    well dear, I'm not having to appeal to authority
    you must not understand why and when appealing to an authority is a fallacy. It's a fallacy when you appeal to some perceived authority on a subject, but with that perceived authority having no real expertise in the area under question

    This fallacy is committed when the person in question is not a legitimate authority on the subject. More formally, if person A is not qualified to make reliable claims in subject S, then the argument will be fallacious.
    Fallacy: Appeal to Authority

    clearly both the FBI and SPLC can speak as authorities on the nature of the Aryan Brotherhood

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