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Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after his deputy is gunned down [W:627]

Dr. Chuckles said:
This is what the FAS paper says on the Aryan Brotherhood, to distinguish them from the Aryan nation, who you keep trying to confuse with the former:



key point: "These three groups may espouse racial hatred, but they are largely guided by the profit motive, not extremism."

and this was the only mention of the AB in the entire paper. SO as you can see, there is no mention of them being a terrorist organization. in fact, it indicates the exact opposite
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you don't expect the wonder twins to acknowledge this do you?

i'll give you a heads up... they won't....they can't

they'll probably start arguing profit motive is domestic terrorism before long.:lol:
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
you should really read the paper. It's not very long



It's pointing out they can be an avenue for more political racial groups (domestic terrorists)
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So you are moving the goal posts again? The question you were originally countering was whether or not they were terrorists. The paper does notsay they are not, nor does it include their latest acts which DO place them further into the defintion of domestic terrorists.

Further, editing my quote and leaving out the relevant portions of my quote is just dirty pool, but then you are what you are. You can't help it....I suppose.
 
Thrilla said:
still reaching into that playbook huh?.... good, that's exactly what you need to do.
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This coming from the guy that accepts a definition, but when the criteria is brought forward that fits the definition, suddenly the play becomes ignore and deny.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
The question you were originally countering was whether or not they were terrorists.
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I'm still countering that. You asked why they were mentioned in the paper, and I pointed out it wasn't because they were a terrorist group. It's because prison gangs can lead to an avenue towards more politically oriented organizations
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
I'm still countering that. You asked why they were mentioned in the paper, and I pointed out it wasn't because they were a terrorist group. It's because prison gangs can lead to an avenue towards more politically oriented organizations
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That doesn't preclude that the AB is not a terrorist group.

Another basic logic failure.

Now edit away.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
This coming from the guy that accepts a definition, but when the criteria is brought forward that fits the definition, suddenly the play becomes ignore and deny.
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oh, now we resort to lying.... awesome!

I see you've still failed to make a case for Authoritarian submission or Conventionalism pertaining to the AB... hell, you have failed to make a case for any of it, come to think of it.

did you think your intellectual sloth went unnoticed?.. hah, think again.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
I'm still countering that. You asked why they were mentioned in the paper, and I pointed out it wasn't because they were a terrorist group. It's because prison gangs can lead to an avenue towards more politically oriented organizations
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The SPLC identified three seperate examples of AB committing terrorism.
 
Thrilla said:
oh, now we resort to lying.... awesome!

I see you've still failed to make a case for Authoritarian submission or Conventionalism pertaining to the AB... hell, you have failed to make a case for any of it, come to think of it.

did you think your intellectual sloth went unnoticed?.. hah, think again.
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I was the one who made the case that ABs are consistent with Authoritarian submission (their charter requires lifelong adherence to their creed and policies) and Conventionalism (a belief that people who are not white aryans are inferior)

Do you think your lies went unnoticed?
 
ya know, it's kinda stupid to defend the AB on any level... the supreme assholes that they are....but damn, there's really no reason to make **** up about them either... doing so is simply an affront to integrity and credibility.

make no bones about it, there are exactly 2 people in here who are in the business of making **** up to suit their politics, no more, no less.....I don't know why they feel the need to exaggerate and argue that a potato is really a banana, but they do.... repetitively... ceaselessly


the AB is not a terrorist group, domestic or otherwise.... they are not right wingers ( they aren't political)
a case can be made for rightwing authoritarianism.... but those whom are trying to make the case don't even understand the concept of RWA... they stopped thinking and researching the minute they saw the words "right wing" and decided to hoist that moniker on what they would hope it would stick to.
had they understood the concept, they would see that the AB would conform to a single characteristic....Authoritarian aggression.
they have no need for submission, nor is such submission present in their mindset....that goes for conventionalism as well.
there would have to be some mighty elaborate mental gymnastics going on to fit the AB into the mold of RWA

the AB are a drug dealing, racist, murderous , prison gang motivated by profit from illegal activities ... nothing more, nothing less.
if that's not evil enough for you, I don't know what to say to say to you... you're a lost cause.
 
sangha said:
I was the one who made the case that ABs are consistent with Authoritarian submission (their charter requires lifelong adherence to their creed and policies) and Conventionalism (a belief that people who are not white aryans are inferior)

Do you think your lies went unnoticed?
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from the guy who believes everything I say is a lie... I won't contest that you noticed my "lies"
 
Thrilla said:
yes, you should..... start with packing up your gun and shipping it down here.
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Having a gun seem to work so well for the DA and his wife................
 
sangha said:
The SPLC identified three seperate examples of AB committing terrorism.
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The SPLC is almost as odious as those they whine about. They do their best to keep their supporters fearful of "racism" extremism" and other bugaboos. Morris Dees is a pimp
 
Catawba said:
Having a gun seem to work so well for the DA and his wife................
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Defensive driving doesn't work out well for everyone either, should it not be practiced?
 
Catawba said:
Having a gun seem to work so well for the DA and his wife................
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yeah if he had no weapon he'd be less dead. Might as well not wear a seatbelt-somewhere someplace someone who was wearing one was still killed in a crash
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Defensive driving doesn't work out well for everyone either, should it not be practiced?
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If your defensive driving practice is causing more deaths than they prevent, than we need to consider switching to other methods.
 
Catawba said:
If your defensive driving practice is causing more deaths than they prevent, than we need to consider switching to other methods.
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as usual you confuse LEGAL GUN OWNERSHIP which prevents far more deaths than it causes versus ILLEGAL gun ownership which is the opposite

Your solutions, of course involve decreasing the FORMER while PRETENDING your silly proposals will decrease the latter

gun restrictionists caused good people to DIE
 
calamity said:
Holy Smokes!
Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after deputy gunned down - CNN.com



Other news sources are tying the Aryan Brotherhood in as likely suspects for both prosecutor killings, and the one of the prison chief in Colorado..
Texas DA and Wife Killed, Possible Aryan Brotherhood Link | Crooks and Liars
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why tthe aryan brotherhood only suspect????in all truthfullness the ab is mostly a bunch of tweeked out white supremesists who really arent very good at pulling off plots without gathering attention.lets face it,some guy smoking meth for 3 weeks without sleep isnt going to be in any stable mind to plot anything and get away with it.

in texas theres a terrorist group known as the republic of texas,which is in support of secession but thats not why its a terrorist group,its labeled as a terrorist group because instead of petitioning and attempting reforms,they have in the past used assasination,extortion,blackmail and other terrorist acts as a means to achieve their goals,while other secession groups in texas still findtion within established law.


amazingly if you go to the wiki poage for republic of texas group,youll see about one of the members fighting over aspen colorado,arguing that aspen colorado was originally texas territory,which in itself links colorado and texas together in these assasinations.
 
Catawba said:
Having a gun seem to work so well for the DA and his wife................
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it's so entertaining to watch a liberal **** on dead people for their political agenda.... and you never fail to entertain.


anyways... why do you believe a gun is a guarantee against being a victim?... what led you to believe in this fantastical notion?

have you sent your gun yet.. or are you going to be greedy and keep it?
 
Thrilla said:
oh, deep down they know this... that's why folks like Catawba own guns

...they just don't want YOU to own a gun... in their little minds, they are superior and you are inferior.
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Well obviously. :lol: I've been told that several times now on this forum actually.
 
Thrilla said:
ya know, it's kinda stupid to defend the AB on any level... the supreme assholes that they are....but damn, there's really no reason to make **** up about them either... doing so is simply an affront to integrity and credibility.

make no bones about it, there are exactly 2 people in here who are in the business of making **** up to suit their politics, no more, no less.....I don't know why they feel the need to exaggerate and argue that a potato is really a banana, but they do.... repetitively... ceaselessly


the AB is not a terrorist group, domestic or otherwise.... they are not right wingers ( they aren't political)
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The AB has been identified as both right wing, and as having committed terrorist crimes.
 
Thrilla said:
from the guy who believes everything I say is a lie... I won't contest that you noticed my "lies"
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You claimed that no one has explained how AB demonstrates Authoritarian Submission or Conventionalism when the truth is, I did both. I even repeated it, and you still can't refute it

You haven't even tried to refute it.
 
beerftw said:
why tthe aryan brotherhood only suspect????in all truthfullness the ab is mostly a bunch of tweeked out white supremesists who really arent very good at pulling off plots without gathering attention.lets face it,some guy smoking meth for 3 weeks without sleep isnt going to be in any stable mind to plot anything and get away with it.

in texas theres a terrorist group known as the republic of texas,which is in support of secession but thats not why its a terrorist group,its labeled as a terrorist group because instead of petitioning and attempting reforms,they have in the past used assasination,extortion,blackmail and other terrorist acts as a means to achieve their goals,while other secession groups in texas still findtion within established law.


amazingly if you go to the wiki poage for republic of texas group,youll see about one of the members fighting over aspen colorado,arguing that aspen colorado was originally texas territory,which in itself links colorado and texas together in these assasinations.
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the funny thing about all this is.... there is no evidence the AB had anything to do with this.

the white supremacist who was killed in the shootout wasn't an AB.. he was a member of the 211 crew... some upstart white supremacy Colorado prison gang.

some cops said that a lot of AB's live in that county... and now people are running around thinking it was the AB's.

it could have been an AB... it could have been a non affiliated asshole.... hell, it could have been anyone ... even a crip or a blood, or a latin king...... nobody knows, but everybody's knees are jerkin'
 
sangha said:
The AB has been identified as both right wing, and as having committed terrorist crimes.
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they have commited terrorist acts,but they fit no real right wing definition,as their ideals hold no traditional conservative values.


since when was changing a,merica into something new that never existed right wing??????or is it just something people like you use to define anything you hate.the biggest hint is that they branch off the german nazi party,hence why they are called neo nazis,because they morphed the nazi ideal into their own ideas,again hardl conservative unless you consider right wing as anything new and fanatical.
 
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