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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    BC is a private college as far as I know....They certainly do have the right to enforce their rules.
    They do and they can enforce this one if they want. If they wanted results though, they would enforce this rule AFTER they dealt with drinking/partying on campus.
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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by mr4anarchy View Post
    Did you not read the story?

    It's the University via their campus police that are considering disciplining the students.

    In this case, the religious views of the Association of Jesuit Colleges are being forced on the students attending a liberal studies college. Celibate men in the Catholic archdiocese of Boston are forcing their beliefs and lifestyle on 18-22 y.o. co-eds in Boston who want to practice safe sex. What does that have to do with a "progressive organization"? NOT getting pregnant when you aren't ready to have a child is a Conservative value, no?

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    Here's a "helpful tip" for you. Read the thread...This is a private University, and the students attending know full well that it is a religious based college. They know the rules, as well as the stance of the Catholic church concerning contraception. IF they don't like those rules, then they can attend another college. Simple. But, you don't start attending somewhere, then when you want to break the rules, accuse the place you're attending of "forcing" their rules on you...How convenient. What a backward way of thinking of this situation. If they want to go to a state university and pass out condoms I am sure that would be fine, but don't go on a private Catholic college campus and think for one second that you are going to get the church to change its stance on BC because you want to do it against the rules....
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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Expecting college students to remain abstinent? lulz...

    Distribution of condoms is not an underground activity, but a public health concern. The unofficial student organization doing it is performing a great service to their community.

    The faculty should mind its own business.

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Expecting college students to remain abstinent? lulz...

    Distribution of condoms is not an underground activity, but a public health concern. The unofficial student organization doing it is performing a great service to their community.

    The faculty should mind its own business.
    Couldn't disagree more...The students should follow the rules of the private institution. BC is not saying that students can not acquire condoms off campus grounds (which btw, one poster with knowledge has already said is only three blocks off campus). If the students don't like the rules surrounding contraception in a Catholic institution, then they should attend a public University.
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    Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Expecting college students to remain abstinent? lulz...

    Distribution of condoms is not an underground activity, but a public health concern. The unofficial student organization doing it is performing a great service to their community.

    The faculty should mind its own business.
    or....their campus, their rules and if you don't like it, get the **** out. I personally disagree with their policy...but I respect their right to make the rules. As soon as you want, you are free to start your own college and set whatever rules for attendance you like.

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Here's a "helpful tip" for you. Read the thread...This is a private University, and the students attending know full well that it is a religious based college. They know the rules, as well as the stance of the Catholic church concerning contraception. IF they don't like those rules, then they can attend another college. Simple. But, you don't start attending somewhere, then when you want to break the rules, accuse the place you're attending of "forcing" their rules on you...How convenient. What a backward way of thinking of this situation. If they want to go to a state university and pass out condoms I am sure that would be fine, but don't go on a private Catholic college campus and think for one second that you are going to get the church to change its stance on BC because you want to do it against the rules....
    Hold it, not so fast, don't change the subject.

    This is what you said in the OP:


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, yet another situation where religious private universities are being forced by progressive organization efforts to go against their rules....
    That statement, your statement, is contrary to anything in the news article. No "progressive group" is forcing a private University to do anything. It's quite the opposite. The Catholic Church via the Association of Jesuit Colleges and the campus police is forcing students (of various religions and beliefs) to adhere to their rules. Rules that most practicing Catholics ignore. That is why I questioned if you actually read the article you posted. In the OP, you seemed to not have any real idea of what the story was about and were just making up some nonexistent "progressive" bad guy.

    #2 It's a liberal studies college. Not a seminary. Not a Nunnery. Do you know the difference?

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by mr4anarchy View Post
    Hold it, not so fast, don't change the subject.

    This is what you said in the OP:
    The rules ARE the subject....

    That statement, your statement, is contrary to anything in the news article. No "progressive group" is forcing a private University to do anything. It's quite the opposite. The Catholic Church via the Association of Jesuit Colleges and the campus police is forcing students (of various religions and beliefs) to adhere to their rules. Rules that most practicing Catholics ignore. That is why I questioned if you actually read the article you posted. In the OP, you seemed to not have any real idea of what the story was about and were just making up some nonexistent "progressive" bad guy.
    No, you are flipping it on its head...It is the progressive group handing out the condoms against stated policy, and ignoring the warnings from the school that has caused this situation. If this group doesn't want that kind of heat, they shouldn't be attending a Catholic University. Oh, and a note on what members of the Catholic church practice or don't, believe, or don't. The Church is not an institution that bends to the whims of the congregation. So, if the members think that the Church is wrong on the subject of contraception, it matters not. The Vatican is who sets the doctrine, NOT popular consensus...If you want that join the Universalist church.

    #2 It's a liberal studies college. Not a seminary. Not a Nunnery.
    No one said it is a seminary....It is however a private college. The course of study has NO bearing on whether or not it is a private institution.

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Last I checked, free speech protects distributing a pamphlet. Especially if it is being censored because of a position it is taking. The students are exercising their constitutional rights. The university, meanwhile, has no rights. The individual people in the university do, and their religious beliefs are protected. But the university as an organization has no right to either force that religion on anyone else, nor to infringe on a student's right to free speech.

    But all means, religious groups, please continue to demonstrate how behind the times you are and continue to lose whatever credibility you have left. By doing things like this, religion makes anti-theists' case better than we ever could.
    If you don't want to deal with their Principles and Values, don't attend a Jesuit University, work for a Church sponsored business, or engage in business with people/organizations that have a well-known and (in this case definitely) well-documented set of regulations and values which are contrary to yours.

    In my mind this goes to the same issue as the religious deferments for certain health insurance benefits and the single woman (in CA?) who got fired from her teaching position for having pre-marital sex. If you don't want to live up to the stated values of a group or organization.... don't do business with them. Don't get a job with a Catholic Hospital or a parochial school if you want them to pay for your contraceptives or accept your out-of-wedlock pregnancy. Don't go to a Catholic University and then expect that their stated values cannot be enforced upon you while you are on their campus. This is basic common sense, folks. Except that common sense no longer exists. It has been replaced with what I consider to be an Anti-Principle meme designed to destroy ANY and ALL belief systems and replace them with the moral relativism that is so rampant in this world these days.

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    If you don't want to deal with their Principles and Values, don't attend a Jesuit University, work for a Church sponsored business, or engage in business with people/organizations that have a well-known and (in this case definitely) well-documented set of regulations and values which are contrary to yours.

    In my mind this goes to the same issue as the religious deferments for certain health insurance benefits and the single woman (in CA?) who got fired from her teaching position for having pre-marital sex. If you don't want to live up to the stated values of a group or organization.... don't do business with them. Don't get a job with a Catholic Hospital or a parochial school if you want them to pay for your contraceptives or accept your out-of-wedlock pregnancy. Don't go to a Catholic University and then expect that their stated values cannot be enforced upon you while you are on their campus. This is basic common sense, folks. Except that common sense no longer exists. It has been replaced with what I consider to be an Anti-Principle meme designed to destroy ANY and ALL belief systems and replace them with the moral relativism that is so rampant in this world these days.
    Well said Tigger.
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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It is the progressive group handing out the condoms against stated policy,
    What progressive group? Huh? Joe and Bill in their dorm room? That's the big bad Progressive organization?

    See, this is where the OP failed. You came out with the partisan attack that wasn't backed by your article.

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