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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    One might ask the question, Why now?
    My guess..... Someone in the Administration who actually believes in the Principles the College was founded on finally found out about this.

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    My guess..... Someone in the Administration who actually believes in the Principles the College was founded on finally found out about this.

    Does not speak well of the school's governance it it took TWO YEARS to find out about actions promoted by posters around the campus.
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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Does not speak well of the school's governance it it took TWO YEARS to find out about actions promoted by posters around the campus.
    You and I both know that the people in charge of many of these schools are not walking around the quad on a daily basis. My guess is that the day-to-day administration doesn't give a crap, but when someone further op the foodchain found out.... you know, someone who actually believes in the Jesuit Principles, that's when this became an issue. We have a Jesuit college in the closest City to me... Worcester. Holy Cross. It's the biggest party school in town. The administration talks the talk but they do not even come close to crawling nevermind walking the walk.

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    If the condom group has been doing their distribution for TWO YEARS, it would not demand that an administrator of the school "walk around the quad on a daily basis" for them to realise that something was going on. Instead it seems to show a physical disconnect between the administrative and educational branches at Boston College.
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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    If the condom group has been doing their distribution for TWO YEARS, it would not demand that an administrator of the school "walk around the quad on a daily basis" for them to realise that something was going on. Instead it seems to show a physical disconnect between the administrative and educational branches at Boston College.
    And, I would suggest, at almost every other "high end" college in the United States. You and I both know how these places operate, Somerville. A good portion of these administrators don't even know the first thing about what's going on around their campuses.

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Not much of an issue. Students can pass out condoms off campus all they want as long as they don't claim campus affiliation. As soon as they claim campus affiliation or do it on campus the school has the right to boot them out. Done and done...everyone is happy.

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Last I checked, free speech protects distributing a pamphlet. Especially if it is being censored because of a position it is taking. The students are exercising their constitutional rights. The university, meanwhile, has no rights. The individual people in the university do, and their religious beliefs are protected. But the university as an organization has no right to either force that religion on anyone else, nor to infringe on a student's right to free speech.

    But all means, religious groups, please continue to demonstrate how behind the times you are and continue to lose whatever credibility you have left. By doing things like this, religion makes anti-theists' case better than we ever could.
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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's another issue, this one is about the students passing out condoms against University rules, after having been warned. Also, as a side note, I don't think the University has a problem if these students are in possession of condoms, or if on their way to a party they stop at the local Rite Aid and shell out the $6 for a box of them. But, flagrantly ignoring the warning, and continuing to do what has gotten you the warning in the first place is evidence that they deserve what ever the University decides is proper coming their way.

    You don't go somewhere, make yourself aware of the rules, then demand that where you are change their rules to suit you.
    See, I don't view the issues as being that much different. Granted I realize that I am looking at this as a person who lived a mile and half from BC so my view is a bit biased to what I personally know, but from the BC kids I know and the parties I have been to, the two issues are rather connected. I understand that the students have been warned and in all fairness to the school there is a CVS like three blocks away from campus, however, I don't think the school can complain about kids passing out condoms when they turn a blind eye to part of the reason kids need the condoms. It is very easy to drink on BC's campus, it almost borderlines on hilariously easy.
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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    See, I don't view the issues as being that much different. Granted I realize that I am looking at this as a person who lived a mile and half from BC so my view is a bit biased to what I personally know, but from the BC kids I know and the parties I have been to, the two issues are rather connected. I understand that the students have been warned and in all fairness to the school there is a CVS like three blocks away from campus, however, I don't think the school can complain about kids passing out condoms when they turn a blind eye to part of the reason kids need the condoms. It is very easy to drink on BC's campus, it almost borderlines on hilariously easy.
    BC is a private college as far as I know....They certainly do have the right to enforce their rules.
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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, yet another situation where religious private universities are being forced by progressive organization efforts to go against their rules....

    Thoughts?
    Did you not read the story?

    It's the University via their campus police that are considering disciplining the students.

    In this case, the religious views of the Association of Jesuit Colleges are being forced on the students attending a liberal studies college. Celibate men in the Catholic archdiocese of Boston are forcing their beliefs and lifestyle on 18-22 y.o. co-eds in Boston who want to practice safe sex. What does that have to do with a "progressive organization"? NOT getting pregnant when you aren't ready to have a child is a Conservative value, no?

    Helpful tip: Read before posting, or at least before commenting in the OP.

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