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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I dunno I still find room inspections without warning and immediate expulsion without questions and I'm assuming without appeal either a little unbelievable, and definitely undesirable. O well.
    You knew the rules ahead of time. They were very clear and defined when you moved in. Your room contract spelled it all out.

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I'm curious, what college was this exactly?
    It's just a story..

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    It's just a story..
    Oh I don't really believe it, but I was curious. Tigger is known for exaggeration

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Oh I don't really believe it, but I was curious. Tigger is known for exaggeration
    How do you think I ended up getting a roommate expelled for having weed in the room?

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I dunno I still find room inspections without warning and immediate expulsion without questions and I'm assuming without appeal either a little unbelievable, and definitely undesirable. O well.
    Actually students know on the first day that their rooms can be searched. The RAs tell students to take anything that is prohibited with them over long breaks like Thanksgiving or Christmas because the rooms are searched and if it is found the kids can get in trouble.
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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It could be fine. If the college is only enforcing certain rules pertaining to their religious beliefs and their contract, then the students absolutely could have a case. If this is in fact shown to be a well-known party school where the staff isn't showing a legitimate effort to enforce rules against such things (pretty sure such a college would have some rules against partying) then they could show that they are picking and choosing enforcement based on political agenda rather than what the contract says. If they find anything that shows the college isn't taking the rest of the contract seriously, they have a case, no matter who agrees with it.
    most contracts have a little clause that says failure to enforce rules does not mean the rules become void.

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    most contracts have a little clause that says failure to enforce rules does not mean the rules become void.
    Like most things in the law though, it will depend on how it looks to a court. Contracts are not ironclad. Especially not college admission ones.

    I honestly don't care if this group is able to go to court and win. I have no issue with them handing out condoms and think the college is wrong to try to stop them but understand the signed the contract is pretty hard to beat. I just also know that college students don't always have as much choice in where they go to college at as many seem to think.

    Honestly, this is just a stupid waste of time on the school's part. It will look really bad for the college if they expel these students for giving out condoms, religious affiliation or not. However right they may be legally in doing so, they will still come off bad because the majority of the educated world realizes that condoms are a good thing and using them and encouraging others to do so shows responsibility, something college should be helping to instill into students, not hindering.
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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I just also know that college students don't always have as much choice in where they go to college at as many seem to think.
    A college education is a LUXURY item, not a Right or a Necessity in life, rogue. If you don't like the school you got into or its rules you're free not to attend.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Honestly, this is just a stupid waste of time on the school's part. It will look really bad for the college if they expel these students for giving out condoms, religious affiliation or not. However right they may be legally in doing so, they will still come off bad because the majority of the educated world realizes that condoms are a good thing and using them and encouraging others to do so shows responsibility, something college should be helping to instill into students, not hindering.
    College should be about preparing for a Career and learning to get along in an orderly and proper society. A large part of that is learning to either play by the rules or find a different game to play in. These kids should have known what they were getting into when they signed the paperwork. Just like the high school teacher somewhere out west who got fired for getting pregnant a couple months ago, and my former roommate who couldn't keep the alcohol, tobacco, and weed out of our dorm room. Know the rules. Play by the rules. If you can't/won't.... find a new game to play in and leave the old one to those of us who can and will follow the rules.

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    No what I am saying is that they are doing it the wrong way. They first need to address the drinking problem because I bet the party atmosphere is part of the reason condoms are needed. Having lived so close to the school, having been at BC and BC parties (against my own will, a true BU student never goes there) and knowing people at BC addressing the drinking solves a lot of problems.

    That's another issue, this one is about the students passing out condoms against University rules, after having been warned. Also, as a side note, I don't think the University has a problem if these students are in possession of condoms, or if on their way to a party they stop at the local Rite Aid and shell out the $6 for a box of them. But, flagrantly ignoring the warning, and continuing to do what has gotten you the warning in the first place is evidence that they deserve what ever the University decides is proper coming their way.

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    Re: Boston College students could face disciplinary action for distributing condoms[W

    One might ask the question, Why now?

    Boston College, ACLU clash over condom giveaway | Religion News Service

    Lizzie Jekanowski, chair of BCSSH, told Boston.com that the Safe Sites program fills a need that the university is not providing to its student body. Students who go to any of the 18 locations — all but one are in dorms — can pick up free male and female condoms, lubricant, and pamphlets about sexual health.

    Jekanowski told Boston.com the administration has been aware of these sites for at least two years and never taken action. She said she was upset that BC officials did not reach out to BCSSH members before issuing the threatening letters.

    “We’ve had a very open relationship and it’s been very positive,” she said. “This letter was very warmongering and threatening.”
    more from WBZ
    Members of BCSSH have agreed to meet with administrators on April 29 to try to resolve the dispute. In the meantime, it has sparked a campus debate. “I’m sure many people are sexually active on campus. It seems like a good resource,” one student tells WBZ-TV.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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