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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

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    TIME Magazine this week features two different covers with a pair of same-sex couples kissing under the headline, "Gay Marriage Already Won." The cover story, which was written by David Von Drehle, details how American attitudes have shifted on the issue to favor equality.


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    I don't know anyone who reads Time Mag. Shall we talk about Mad Mag's spoof of The Croods?

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

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    Last time I checked, gay people could have children. Please post a link to places where a gay person can't have a child.
    I thought it was common knowledge that 2 men couldn't conceive.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

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    First of all think about how stupid that really sounds, your arguing over a ****ing word.
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    Sounds like a great demonstration on the power of words and symbols, especially since this made the news and our attention.
    A lot of people feel that same-sex marriage is like writing the word 'marriage' on a piece of paper and stepping on it; disrespectful.

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I thought it was common knowledge that 2 men couldn't conceive.
    What does that have to do with anything? So if the definition of marriage was changed, they could?.

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Last time I checked, gay people could have children.
    I thought it was common knowledge that 2 men couldn't conceive.
    That's right, 2 men cannot "conceive", but two men can "have children": adoption and foster parenting.

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I thought it was common knowledge that 2 men couldn't conceive.
    Gay people are not infertile though. They're not incapable of impregnating (or being impregnated) by the opposite sex. Surrogate mothers and sperm donors are a few examples of how gay people can have children.
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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Really? Well think how stupid it is to hold up receiving Federal recognition because they want a word to mean something else. Idiotic.
    Good morning Ocean - hope all is well with you out in La La Land.

    As for "federal recognition", I've stated many times that there would be no fight over the official piece of paper if it wasn't a passport to tax benefits and bonuses from government. Strip away the government's use of the document as a way to engineer society and you won't have gays clamoring to get the paper, hell, you won't have straights wanting the paper any longer.

    From my perspective, if people are so much in love that it overcomes all reason, let them get married all they want to whomever they want as many times as they want - just don't give them government bonuses for doing so.

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    What does that have to do with anything? So if the definition of marriage was changed, they could?.
    No, but just giving them equal rights under another name wouldn't change it either. Call it Gay Rutabaga, and it doesn't change the procreation argument about gay "marriage."


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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's right, 2 men cannot "conceive", but two men can "have children": adoption and foster parenting.
    I know more about adoption than half the people here will ever know.

    I'm referring to the anti-gay marriage argument that always gets into the procreation argument.


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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    II'm referring to the anti-gay marriage argument that always gets into the procreation argument.
    There is no meaningful difference between foster/adopt and biologically related children. There is no imperative that the children you raise be blood relatives; otherwise we would have to ban step-parents.

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