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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

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    This issue could have been resolved long ago if the LGBT radicals hadn't made the issue about redefining a word, and made it about receiving similar recognition by Federal agencies.

    Shameful.
    Contract is contract. You want to infringe upon one's right to contract, then you're going to have to have damned good and compelling reason as to why government force should be used against the free exercise of rights.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

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    Contract is contract. You want to infringe upon one's right to contract, then you're going to have to have damned good and compelling reason as to why government force should be used against the free exercise of rights.
    Government force?

    Amazing how far the argument has been taken.

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Government force?

    Amazing how far the argument has been taken.
    Yes, it takes the force of government to prevent the exercise of contract. In the natural state, that force doesn't exist. Instead it is exerted by government through the Marriage License.

    Did that really have to be explained? It's like people have given up on thinking.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, it takes the force of government to prevent the exercise of contract. In the natural state, that force doesn't exist. Instead it is exerted by government through the Marriage License.

    Did that really have to be explained? It's like people have given up on thinking.
    LOL. Yea, that's it. Thank goodness there is your there to even up the imbalance.

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL. Yea, that's it. Thank goodness there is your there to even up the imbalance.
    My god, that is one horrific sentence.

    I try my best to educate people on the proper roles and necessary constraints of government. But some of y'all just love to run to it when you don't get your way.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    My god, that is one horrific sentence.

    I try my best to educate people on the proper roles and necessary constraints of government. But some of y'all just love to run to it when you don't get your way.
    Is that right?

    Well, dang, I guess I should just plain shudder in the shadow of your alphabetic presence.

    The thing is, I'm in support of the equality same sex couples are seeking, just not the way they are going about it.

    I suppose you were too caught up in your willful magnificence to catch that.

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Is that right?

    Well, dang, I guess I should just plain shudder in the shadow of your alphabetic presence.

    The thing is, I'm in support of the equality same sex couples are seeking, just not the way they are going about it.

    I suppose you were too caught up in your willful magnificence to catch that.
    No I caught your "separate but equal" argument. Problem is, we already did that once....didn't really pan out. I see no reason to repeat past stupidities.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    As Sotomayer put it

    Outside of the marriage context, can you think of any other rational basis, reason, for a state using sexual orientation as a factor in denying homosexuals benefits? Or imposing burdens on them? Is there any other decision-making that the government could make -- denying them a job, not granting them benefits of some sort, any other decision?
    The answer is obviously no, so why bar them from marriage?

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No I caught your "separate but equal" argument. Problem is, we already did that once....didn't really pan out. I see no reason to repeat past stupidities.
    Well, I suppose the concept of equivalence will be something to avoid with you.

    Again, it's quite interesting to see how far afield proponants of SSM are taking the issue. I guess I shouldn't be surprised when racism is pulled from the quiver.

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    Re: TIME Magazine Features Two Covers, Two Couples, Declares ‘Gay Marriage Already Wo

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Well, I suppose the concept of equivalence will be something to avoid with you.

    Again, it's quite interesting to see how far afield proponants of SSM are taking the issue. I guess I shouldn't be surprised when racism is pulled from the quiver.
    Indeed not, particularly when you are using the marriage license for its intended purpose....discrimination against "yucky" marriage (it was initially inter-racial, that's why the Marriage License came into existence in the first place. Big government loving busybodies who couldn't keep to their own beeswax). At some point, I hope that as a society and people we can evolve.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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