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'Monsanto Protection Act': 5 Terrifying Things To Know About The HR 933 Provision

muciti said:
The labeling and misconceptions in the food industry are atrocious. And in my opinion so is what we do to food for profit.
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I could only hit the 'like' button once...... :thumbs:

What still astounds me is how people accept the lack of information so blindly.....
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Monsanto the liberal boogey man, BOOOH! :lol:
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Actually Monsanto is the average farmer's boogyman as well. The COOP used to sell cleaned bulk run wheat seed as 'common' or generic wheat to area farmers, mostly for winter pasture. It is a mix of every type stored at the elevator. Because it was a blend of varieties with differing ripening times and stalk lengths it wasn't desirable for grain production.

Monsanto got a court ruling declaring if ANY of the bulk seed was theirs they could sue for patent infringement. That has effectively shut down a good source of seed for winter pasturage as well as revenue for the local economy.

So they ain't on my Christmas card list these days... ;)
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Monsanto the liberal boogey man, BOOOH! :lol:
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There IS something wrong when your GMO corn contaminates my organic corn and they successfully sue you for stealing their imtellectual property.

Then theres the whole patenting heirloom plants and declaring THEM yoir intellectual property.
 
Muddy Creek said:
Monsanto has been a permanent fixture in our government for a long time. Corporations regularly get appointed to oversee the very thing they protect. Coal mine owners were the favorite appointments of Bush in the Mine Safety Department head.
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Unfortunately, the government can't be expert at everything and consequently is sometimes forced to rely on industry to provide particular knowledge. There's a double-edged sword there, because leaving it completely to industry sometimes you get favoritism and sometimes the right answer, and leaving it to the government experts you get the right answer and sometimes a $500 hammer. But the government relies on industry for expertise a lot more than you think. Who builds the aircraft carriers, aircraft and tanks? You know who. And then you have government engineers watching what they are doing.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
I know nobody forces you to buy it, we use heirloom seed in our garden.
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It is interesting to note that while monsanto is very fond of "suicide seeds" which don't produce viable.seed, it seems like ALL GMOs are fertile.

Seems convenient when ANY monsanto genes are considered their intellectual property.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Farmers don't have to use it. I know a wheat farmer that is very proud of seed he himself has developed for 30 years.
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Does he grow it in a sealed dome of some kind?

If he doesn't its only a matter of time before its contaminated with monsanto owned genes and becomes THEIR property.
 
Industry has been given a pass to poison us. Monsanto should not get to avoid the tort process, especially if harm can be proven. This is outrageous.

The FDA is currently being petitioned by the dairy industry to have the ability to add aspartame to milk products without labeling it, even if the product is organic. Neotame, another sweetener, already has this privilege under the FDA. When aspartame's approval was already highly controversial, it's shocking to see industry getting a pass time and time again to add known toxic products to our diet, and we don't have the right to know.

There are things I miss about being in my home State but I'm so glad I got the hell out of the U.S. The corporate control of government gets worse and worse every year.
 
muciti said:
This is incredibly disturbing.






Look at that, democrats and republicans can work together for the benefit of huge corporations with complete disregard for public safety.

'Monsanto Protection Act': 5 Terrifying Things To Know About The HR 933 Provision
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Can anyone explain why genetically modified seeds would be hazardous and why we want more diversity? DaveFagan, you probably are the smartest one here. Can you put it into layman's terms?

For those of you who don't want to engage in an intelligent conversation about natural science, your comments show your intelligence here.
 
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From the article:

The provision's language was written in collusion with Monsanto. Lawmakers and companies working together to craft legislation is by no means a rare occurrence in this day and age. But the fact that Sen. Roy Blunt actually worked with Monsanto on a provision that in effect allows them to keep selling seeds, which can then go on to be planted, even if it is found to be harmful to consumers, is stunning. It's just another example of corporations bending Congress to their will, and it's one that could have dire risks for public health in America.
 
From the article:

Many members of Congress were apparently unaware that the "Monsanto Protection Act" even existed within the bill they were voting on. HR 933 was a spending bill aimed at averting a government shutdown and ensuring that the federal government would continue to be able to pay its bills. But the Center for Food Safety maintains that many Democrats in Congress were not even aware that the provision was in the legislation:
 
In Monsanto v. Geertson Seed Farms, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in a case which could have an enormous effect on the future of the American food industry. This is Monsanto's 3rd appeal of the case, and if they win a favorable ruling from the high court, a deregulated Monsanto may find itself in position to corner the markets of numerous U.S. crops, and to litigate conventional farmers into oblivion. Here's where it gets a bit dicier. Two Supreme Court justices have what appear to be direct conflicts of interest.

Stephen Breyer: Charles Breyer, the judge who ruled in the original decision of 2007 which is being appealed, is Stephen Breyer's brother, who apparently views this as a conflict of interest and has recused himself.

Clarence Thomas : From the years 1976 - 1979, Thomas worked as an attorney for Monsanto. Thomas apparently does not see this as a conflict of interest and has not recused himself.

Fox, meet henhouse.
Conflict of Interest: Ex Monsanto Lawyer Clarence Thomas to Hear Major Monsanto Case
 
66gardeners said:
In Monsanto v. Geertson Seed Farms, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in a case which could have an enormous effect on the future of the American food industry. This is Monsanto's 3rd appeal of the case, and if they win a favorable ruling from the high court, a deregulated Monsanto may find itself in position to corner the markets of numerous U.S. crops, and to litigate conventional farmers into oblivion. Here's where it gets a bit dicier. Two Supreme Court justices have what appear to be direct conflicts of interest.

Stephen Breyer: Charles Breyer, the judge who ruled in the original decision of 2007 which is being appealed, is Stephen Breyer's brother, who apparently views this as a conflict of interest and has recused himself.

Clarence Thomas : From the years 1976 - 1979, Thomas worked as an attorney for Monsanto. Thomas apparently does not see this as a conflict of interest and has not recused himself.

Fox, meet henhouse.
Conflict of Interest: Ex Monsanto Lawyer Clarence Thomas to Hear Major Monsanto Case
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Actually, they already decided in favor of Monsanto on this one, I'm pretty sure. Surprise, surprise, huh? The only way to get rid of Monsanto in the government is for a full protest from Americans.
 
Muddy Creek said:
Actually, they already decided in favor of Monsanto on this one, I'm pretty sure. Surprise, surprise, huh? The only way to get rid of Monsanto in the government is for a full protest from Americans.
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You are correct about that. The link is from 2010, I believe
 
clownboy said:
Have to say, in this regard, they're my booyman too. This sort of thing is going to come back and bite us in the butt.
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Monsanto has done some good stuff, some questionable stuff and some bad stuff, haven't we all. I'm not going to jump on the bash Monsanto band wagon but like I said earlier we use heirloom seeds in our garden.
 
66gardeners said:
Can anyone explain why genetically modified seeds would be hazardous and why we want more diversity? DaveFagan, you probably are the smartest one here. Can you put it into layman's terms?

For those of you who don't want to engage in an intelligent conversation about natural science, your comments show your intelligence here.
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It's is not an area I have researched thoroughly, but the "dead bee" crisis that is wiping out the pollinators is because of unregulated seeds that grow an insecticide, nicotinoids, in the plant. Seems harmless until bees keep eating their own jelly that is completely contaminated with the insecticide. No pollinators, no flowering plants to become food. This is the problem area of GM products. Unpredictability and no regulation because Corporations like Monsanto get politicians to get them a blanket OK for things that truly need long-term testing. It is regulation working backwards to the benefit of those who should be regulated.
 
66gardeners said:
From the article:

Many members of Congress were apparently unaware that the "Monsanto Protection Act" even existed within the bill they were voting on. HR 933 was a spending bill aimed at averting a government shutdown and ensuring that the federal government would continue to be able to pay its bills. But the Center for Food Safety maintains that many Democrats in Congress were not even aware that the provision was in the legislation:
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It was inserted by Blount form Arkansas. He received $65,000 from Monsanto in the last 4 or 5 years. He's apparently repaid his I.O.U., eh?
 
DaveFagan said:
It's is not an area I have researched thoroughly, but the "dead bee" crisis that is wiping out the pollinators is because of unregulated seeds that grow an insecticide, nicotinoids, in the plant. Seems harmless until bees keep eating their own jelly that is completely contaminated with the insecticide. No pollinators, no flowering plants to become food. This is the problem area of GM products. Unpredictability and no regulation because Corporations like Monsanto get politicians to get them a blanket OK for things that truly need long-term testing. It is regulation working backwards to the benefit of those who should be regulated.
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Thanks for your input. This is a very complex issue whose rational debate is inhibited by greed.
 
muciti said:
This is incredibly disturbing.







Look at that, democrats and republicans can work together for the benefit of huge corporations with complete disregard for public safety.

'Monsanto Protection Act': 5 Terrifying Things To Know About The HR 933 Provision
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I eat lots of veggies too. How can we be sure what we eat is safe and not involved with Monsanto? If it's certified organic?

This is bull****. Eating vegetables is supposed to be healthy, its not a health concern.
 
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