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    5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    It's gay week at SCOTUS!

    5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case - CBS News

    The Supreme Court has the opportunity to issue a landmark ruling this year as it considers the constitutionality of Proposition 8, California's ban on same-sex marriage.

    It could define same-sex marriage as a constitutionally-protected right, or it could uphold the ban, setting back the gay rights movement for years. The case, however, isn't as simple as deciding whether or not same-sex couples have a right to get married.
    Today they are hearing arguments on Prop 8 in CA, which would ban SSM. Prop 8 was overturned but the appeal is waiting for a decision by SCOTUS. There's quite a bit of speculation that SCOTUS will wuss out on this one, ruling that prop 8 supporters have no legal standing to bring this case before SCOTUS. (The state of California refused to defend the amendment in court, so anti-SSM folks took up its defense) The effect of this would be the previous ruling stands, prop 8 is overturned and SSM is legal in CA. While disappointing for pro-SSM folks, it's not all bad, CA moves back to freedom on a permanent basis and an interesting precedent regarding standing of straight people in SSM cases is set.

    Virtually nobody hearing the court discussion thinks prop 8 will be upheld. Tweeters indicate that SCOTUS seems much more wary of setting a broad precedent on the subject. P
    Cowards. This isn't going away!

    Tomorrow they take arguments on a constitutional challenge to the Defense of Marriage Act. I think SCOTUS has fewer punt options there, as it's a federal law with challenges in multiple districts.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    IMHO, Prop 8 was an act of 70% of the voters of California and the Fed courts should never have become involved. Less than 2% of Californians are trying to overturn the will of the majority. Is this what this nation has become?
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Hopefully we see the them overturn Prop 8. It's time for the United States to live up to its own democratic expectations. SSM should have been legal years ago.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by longknife View Post
    IMHO, Prop 8 was an act of 70% of the voters of California and the Fed courts should never have become involved. Less than 2% of Californians are trying to overturn the will of the majority. Is this what this nation has become?
    Prop 8 passed with barely over 50% of the vote, which is not uncommon, but it is not 70% of the vote. That's just a simple fact. Now onto my opinion, the courts should overturn prop 8 as the majority has no right to take away rights from the minority. Do you think when the SCOTUS declared segregation unconstitutional that they cared about what the majority of people wanted in the segregated South? Hell no, and good thing they didn't either. Rights are not something you should be able to take away with a simple majority.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by longknife View Post
    IMHO, Prop 8 was an act of 70% of the voters of California and the Fed courts should never have become involved. Less than 2% of Californians are trying to overturn the will of the majority. Is this what this nation has become?
    Are you seriously counting every non-voter in CA as supporting prop 8? (actually even then your number is way off)

    Lets turn that around. Only 7 million out of the state's 38 voted to ban SSM. less than 20% of the states population voted to take away rights from people and you think that's sufficient grounds!?

    Your opinion is even more humble than you thought, because your numbers are complete horse****.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Hopefully we see the them overturn Prop 8. It's time for the United States to live up to its own democratic expectations. SSM should have been legal years ago.
    That's not the point! The point is that the people of a state voted overwhelmingly for a state proposition. If you don't like it - MOVE.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by longknife View Post
    That's not the point! The point is that the people of a state voted overwhelmingly for a state proposition. If you don't like it - MOVE.
    By no stretch of imagination is 52% "overwhelming" and since when is it ok for us to vote to take away rights?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Add to that Prop 8 was a successful state constitution amendment. The state had a duty to defend the will of the people, and it did not. The appeal should have never been successful. But now it's in the hands of SCOTUS they should issue a clear decision either way.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by longknife View Post
    IMHO, Prop 8 was an act of 70% of the voters of California and the Fed courts should never have become involved. Less than 2% of Californians are trying to overturn the will of the majority. Is this what this nation has become?
    Yeah so if the majority in the state want slavery, we should allow that too because we don't want to overturn the will of the majority right?

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Add to that Prop 8 was a successful state constitution amendment. The state had a duty to defend the will of the people, and it did not. The appeal should have never been successful. But now it's in the hands of SCOTUS they should issue a clear decision either way.
    The state has no duty to defend something they perceive as unconstitutional. Or do you think it's the duty of every state to defend every gun control law, health care reform, etc?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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