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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The SCOTUS shouldn't even be hearing this case.. This was a direct democratically passed state piece of law...

    Does the Tenth Amendment mean nothing these days?

    If the damn thing was illegal in the first place then how the hell did it make it onto the ballot?

    That's a good question isn't it?

    Oh yeah, progressives didn't like the outcome so all of a sudden the laws and policies of this nation don't count - the same laws they love when it comes to regulation or taxation - that **** is the law of the land then.
    Plenty of unconstitutional laws have existed and a fair amount have been made nil because of their being unconstitutional. You make it sound like you're totally unfamiliar with our legal system.

    Well if we question the validity of a law that is why we bring it to a court, and it has now moved it's way all the way to the Supreme Court. Now it's future is in the supreme court's hands. You could do the same thing with any law you thought was unconstitutional, and if the court agreed with you then you were successful and correct, but if not then I guess for then that was the end of that. This can be done with practically any law in all of the U.S. so don't make it sound like it's a tool only for use by progressives for their own agenda, everyone has the opportunity to bring a case to the Supreme court.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If you think Obamacare is unconstitutional, how did it pass in the first place?
    Because we elect idiots who don't even read proposed legislation.

    If one doesn't read a bill how the hell would one know it's constitutional or not?

    Are you satisfied with representatives who don't even read legislation and only vote on said legislation for partisan reasons?

    Obamacare is only 6 feet high... Yeah stack books 6 feet high and that is the "law."

    IMO, I would love to know who writes that crap... Who has the time to write a "book" 6 feet high?

    At least some people are willing to be responsible and read it... I have read some and there is a lot of substance within the bill that has nothing to do with health care.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The California Supreme Court upheld Prop 8.
    The federal district court overturned it, and they hold higher power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Because we elect idiots who don't even read proposed legislation.

    If one doesn't read a bill how the hell would one know it's constitutional or not?

    Are you satisfied with representatives who don't even read legislation and only vote on said legislation for partisan reasons?
    So you are satisfied that sometimes unconstitutional acts make it through the democratic process. Thanks.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Revisionist history.

    Same sex marriage was not legal in California. Prop. 22 which was passed in 2000 defined marriage as between a man and a woman. The California Supreme court overturned the law in 2008. So, in effect, the COURT legalized gay marriage in 2008. This gave rise to prop. 8 which passed in 2010.
    Which does not invalidate my point that prior to prop 8, same sex couples could legally marry in CA and were in fact doing so.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If progressives are really this passionate about gay marriage than why don't they TRY TO AMEND THE CONSTITUTION instead of running to the Supreme Court?

    Oh yeah they can't because defining marriage is impossible not to mention a slippery slope argument, or the so-called fallacies they refuse to recognize even exist. They can't do it because defining would be de facto discrimination.

    Unbelievable...
    You've really never heard of judicial review have you?

    The SCOTUS was able to over turn racial segregation without a change to the text of the Constitution being required, the same can be done with gay marriage.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    54% of the population wouldn't be eligiable for voting? The national average of people under 18 is 23.7%. That is large chunk of people who never bothered registering.
    And of course that doesn't matter here. Majority equals majority of VOTERS. Once again, voter turnout was high for the state and the majority of the voters voted Prop 8 in.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If progressives are really this passionate about gay marriage than why don't they TRY TO AMEND THE CONSTITUTION instead of running to the Supreme Court?

    Oh yeah they can't because defining marriage is impossible not to mention a slippery slope argument, or the so-called fallacies they refuse to recognize even exist. They can't do it because defining would be de facto discrimination.

    Unbelievable...
    Because the obvious step before going to Congress for an Amendment is going to the Supreme court for a precedent. Because It is incredibly easier for 5 justices to agree rather than 2/3 of congress and 3/4 of states. It's really just common sense don't judge others for being more tactful in their lawful precedings than the side that you prefer.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If progressives are really this passionate about gay marriage than why don't they TRY TO AMEND THE CONSTITUTION instead of running to the Supreme Court?

    Oh yeah they can't because defining marriage is impossible not to mention a slippery slope argument, or the so-called fallacies they refuse to recognize even exist. They can't do it because defining would be de facto discrimination.

    Unbelievable...
    If regressives are so against obamacare why didn't they repeal it instead of running to the Supreme Court?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And the citizen of CA passed an unconstitutional ballot measure because it violates two existing parts of the constitution.
    NOT according to the state. Once the voters enacted and the state supreme court upheld the intiative the state had a duty to defend it's constitution.

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