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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

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    Gays are defined by their sexuality

    Blacks aren't blacks because of who they have sex with. Skin color is not relevant to behavior. That's why it's racist to claim gay marriage is a civil right. Blacks were targeted and persecuted for what they looked like. Gays want to change the definition of marriage. It twisted to equate the two on a moral level.

    If a bisexual wants to marry both a man and woman, who are you to deny them their civil right to do so? Who they love doesn't harm you. Why deny their right to marry who they want?
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Gays are defined by their sexuality

    If a bisexual wants to marry both a man and woman, who are you to deny them their civil right to do so? Who they love doesn't harm you. Why deny their right to marry who they want?
    Excellent. I'm glad you agree that there has to be some sort of measurable harm done before you can ban other types of marriage!

    So tell me the harm done by same-sex marriage or polygamy because I can't really quantify harm of any sort.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    If a bisexual wants to marry both a man and woman, who are you to deny them their civil right to do so? Who they love doesn't harm you. Why deny their right to marry who they want?
    That would be polygamy.


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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Gays are defined by who they are attracted to, not by sex. Heterosexuals are defined the exact same way.
    They are defined by their behavior

    If marriage is a right based upon who people are attracted to, then you are you to deny the right of anyone to marry anything?

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That would be polygamy.
    So what?

    Who are you to deny their right to marry who they want?

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    They are defined by their behavior

    If marriage is a right based upon who people are attracted to, then you are you to deny the right of anyone to marry anything?
    Absolutely false. By definition, orientation refers to who people are attracted to.

    SSM is not about letting people marry any one they are attracted to, it is about allowing people to marry people of the same sex.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Excellent. I'm glad you agree that there has to be some sort of measurable harm done before you can ban other types of marriage!

    So tell me the harm done by same-sex marriage or polygamy because I can't really quantify harm of any sort.
    Gay marriage has never been "banned"

    There never has been any such thing as gay marriage. It's never been a societal norm. Not even in Sparta where there was rampant homosexuality.

    Gays don't have the right to change the definition of marriage at the exclusion of other sexual interest groups

    Gay marriage has no social or economic value. It serves no purpose.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Absolutely false. By definition, orientation refers to who people are attracted to.

    SSM is not about letting people marry any one they are attracted to, it is about allowing people to marry people of the same sex.
    Which means changing the definition of what marriage is

    What gives the right to change the definition over any other sexual interest group?

    As a man do I have a right to workout at an all female gym?

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Which means changing the definition of what marriage is
    Depends on what definition of marriage you are using. It has changed over time.

    What gives the right to change the definition over any other sexual interest group?
    Because there are benefits to allowing SSM, and not allowing SSM is harmful. The state has no rational basis to not allow same sex couples to marry.

    As a man do I have a right to workout at an all female gym?
    Not even remotely the same thing.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Gays don't have the right to change the definition of marriage at the exclusion of other sexual interest groups
    Thats true, in so much that heterosexuals have no right to refuse changing the definition at the exclusion of other sexual interest groups as well.

    No one really has a "right" to change or refuse to change a definition....though they do have a right to make their case one way or another, which is what's happening.

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