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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    No, they can't just impose restrictions on anything on anybody. You have no "right" to own a house, but the State can't pass a law saying "Italians can't own houses." I know you guys balk at interracial marriage comparisons or any other civil rights restrictions, but saying the State can impose any restrictions it wants on a right or privilege leads to exactly that - Why can a state say "No gay marriage," but not "No Chinese/Vietnamese marriage?"
    Are you saying that gender differences are on the same playing field as race differences? I think that is a terrible correlation to make.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    What if a gay couple demands a church marry them and they refuse? Which civil right takes precedence?
    It has nothing to do with a Church. This is about marriage as a civil institution. A church can refuse people certain "sacraments" or whatever they want to call them. A "sacrament" is not a civil right. Equal access to civil institutions is.


    There is no slippery slope fallacy. Your feelings do not equal facts.
    Neither do yours.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Are you saying that gender differences are on the same playing field as race differences? I think that is a terrible correlation to make.

    Why do you think it's a terrible correlation?


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yeah so if the majority in the state want slavery, we should allow that too because we don't want to overturn the will of the majority right?
    No, because the 13th Amendment explicitly forbids slavery.

    By contrast, please note every instance in which the Constitution, amended or otherwise, includes the word "marriage."


    Once you've noted that you have 0 results, please re-read the 10th Amendment.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    No, because the 13th Amendment explicitly forbids slavery.

    By contrast, please note every instance in which the Constitution, amended or otherwise, includes the word "marriage."


    Once you've noted that you have 0 results, please re-read the 10th Amendment.
    14th amendment.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Why do you think it's a terrible correlation?
    Because there is no differences in races. I thought its long been established that men and women are actually different.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    14th amendment.
    As noted above, 0 results found.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    As noted above, 0 results found.
    It doesn't use the word marriage so can't possibly be applied to marriage?

    Well, I guess the 14th amendment means absolutely nothing to you because it doesn't go into anything specific.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Because we elect idiots who don't even read proposed legislation.

    If one doesn't read a bill how the hell would one know it's constitutional or not?

    Are you satisfied with representatives who don't even read legislation and only vote on said legislation for partisan reasons?

    Obamacare is only 6 feet high... Yeah stack books 6 feet high and that is the "law."

    IMO, I would love to know who writes that crap... Who has the time to write a "book" 6 feet high?

    At least some people are willing to be responsible and read it... I have read some and there is a lot of substance within the bill that has nothing to do with health care.

    One word: Insiders. (Baucus Thanks Wellpoint VP Liz Fowler for Writing Health Care Bill | FDL Action) (The revolving door spins faster on healthcare reform - Salon.com)

    In addition to this, the reform isn't even really reform. (Obamacare: A Health Insurance Subsidy, Not Health Care Reform | Roosevelt Institute)
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    I would also point out that legislation and regulation are written in a format that puts very little actual text on each page. I read the 2000 page health care bill in a day.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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