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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    All strawmen

    Interracial marriage didn't change the definition of marriage. No example you have given ever changed the definition of marriage from man + woman to man + ? or woman + ?
    Why are you ignoring part of the previous definition? It was one man and one woman of the same race. Hey, I can ignore parts of the definition too.

    Same-sex marriage doesn't change the definition from one ___ and one ____.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why are you ignoring part of the previous definition? It was one man and one woman of the same race. Hey, I can ignore parts of the definition too.

    Same-sex marriage doesn't change the definition from one ___ and one ____.
    No it wasn't. You are mistaken.

    And yes it does change the definition to man + ? or woman + ?

    Also comparing gay marriage to the real racial discrimination blacks have suffered through is racist

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post

    Also comparing gay marriage to the real racial discrimination blacks have suffered through is racist
    Talking about discrimination makes a person racist? That's an interesting new definition of the term.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why are you ignoring part of the previous definition? It was one man and one woman of the same race. Hey, I can ignore parts of the definition too.

    Same-sex marriage doesn't change the definition from one ___ and one ____.
    Are you implying that race differences are the same as gender differences? I was under the impression that there is no difference between the races.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by longknife View Post
    That's not the point! The point is that the people of a state voted overwhelmingly for a state proposition. If you don't like it - MOVE.
    America is a constitutional republic, not a "democratic" republic, so democracy as a vehicle to decision-making is not an absolute in America.

    That being said, I wish those arguing for Prop 8 would have presented a more intelligent and comprehensive argument than they did.

    I think their argument is a loser.

    Though some think the court will punt, I don't think the liberal-dominated court will do anything but overturn Prop 8, and they will overturn DOMA as well.

    This is all ideological, not sensibly intelligent.

    And, no matter what decisions are made by the SCOTUS on these issues, the matter simply will not go away, ever, as clearly an SS couple is not an OS couple, and thus marriage, by definitive propriety, simply does not apply to SS couples.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Talking about discrimination makes a person racist? That's an interesting new definition of the term.
    Claiming gays not having the right to change the definition of marriage over every other sexual interest group is the same thing as what blacks have gone through is racist and disgusting

    Gay Marriage is not a "Civil Right"

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post

    Gay Marriage is not a "Civil Right"
    By your definition

    By an actual definition

    civil rights
    pl.n.
    The rights belonging to an individual by virtue of citizenship, especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution and by subsequent acts of Congress, including civil liberties, due process, equal protection of the laws, and freedom from discrimination.

    Freedoms and privileges. Even if you see marriage as a privilege, it's there.


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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Claiming gays not having the right to change the definition of marriage over every other sexual interest group is the same thing as what blacks have gone through is racist and disgusting

    Gay Marriage is not a "Civil Right"
    The definition of marriage is not a civil right.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    By your definition

    By an actual definition




    Freedoms and privileges. Even if you see marriage as a privilege, it's there.
    Which means the state cannot restrict it in any way. Correct?

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    By your definition

    By an actual definition




    Freedoms and privileges. Even if you see marriage as a privilege, it's there.
    Should churches be forced to marry gay couples?

    Any sexual interest group can have their own definition of marriage right?

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