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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What?

    Due Process is quite clear, the Equal Protection clause is vague as hell. Not to mention both are miles apart and have absolutely nothing to do with one another.

    Don't even try to play Constitutional law with me.
    Which leaves prop 8 supporters with two serious and separate constitutional hurdles to overcome, according to the federal circuit court.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Since you are so up on constitutional law, mr nick, surely you can articulate sufficient grounds for prop 8 to pass intermediate scrutiny.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So unconstitutional laws are never passed?
    Of course they are at the Federal level...

    It's pretty simple - if a law is not in the Constitution then a state can pass a law into their state constitution. That is precisely what happened with Prop 8. Now progressives are crying about it.

    I'm shocked the SCOTUS is even hearing this nonsense. It's not their boggle to decide.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Since you are so up on constitutional law, mr nick, surely you can articulate sufficient grounds for prop 8 to pass intermediate scrutiny.
    Do you want to continue to play the "exceptions" nonsense?

    Oh this law doesn't apply because of ____________ and because.

    or

    This idea should be legal because it makes me happy...

    Yeah well I'm sure Charles Manson's minions made him happy by murdering people..... Maybe I should sue to make murder legal?

    Prop 8 was a democratic measure (not only that but a ballot proposition) that violated ZERO laws or freedoms.

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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by longknife View Post
    IMHO, Prop 8 was an act of 70% of the voters of California and the Fed courts should never have become involved. Less than 2% of Californians are trying to overturn the will of the majority. Is this what this nation has become?
    There are some laws that, no matter what the will of the people, cannot be legal. That's like saying 99% of the people in a theoretical vote in Kentucky want to re-impose slavery. It doesn't matter, slavery will never be imposed again no matter how many people want it.

    I still think it's funny how many people on the left don't recognize that the passage of Prop. 8 was all Obama's fault to begin with.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    First, not a right and nothing was "taken" away. Second, for California, a state famous for it's "blueness" and home to traditionally the most vocal gay community, 52% voting to ban gay marriage at the constitutional level is indeed overwhelming.
    Blame Obama.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by longknife View Post
    That's not the point! The point is that the people of a state voted overwhelmingly for a state proposition. If you don't like it - MOVE.
    again, it was not overwhelmingly and if this was the case maybe there would still be slaves or no minority rights or no interracial marriage or no woman's rights.

    If you dont like equal rights for your fellow americans and you dont care about their rights, freedoms and liberties you can move out the country. LOL
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Hopefully we see the them overturn Prop 8. It's time for the United States to live up to its own democratic expectations. SSM should have been legal years ago.
    I agree, im not surprised its not but i agree 100%

    its amazing that people are still fighting against equal rights in 2013
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    States are not a hive mind. The executive is not bound in any way to defend every law or ballot measure in a court of law.
    Especially in California where you can put literally anything on the ballot if you get enough signatures, even if it's absurd. You could pass a ballot measure changing the speed of light if you could convince the voters. That doesn't mean it's going to go into effect and many ballot measures end up in the courts after the fact because the voters simply cannot do what they voted to do.
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    Re: 5 possible outcomes of the Supreme Court Prop. 8 case

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And yet folks still leave millions to their pets every year.
    Actually, you can't leave anything to a pet, at best you can set up a trust with a human executor to fund the care of the pet. Pets cannot directly be a party to any legal contract.
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