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    US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    US training Syrian opposition forces in Jordan for months, sources say | Fox News

    "The training program, first reported by the Associated Press, involves classes of about 50 to 60 secular Syrian fighters led by about 100 American trainers, a number that was capped by the Jordanian government. The program is part of a bid to bolster forces battling President Bashar Assad's regime and stem the influence of Islamist radicals among the country's persistently splintered opposition."


    Why are we doing this? Do we know who the 'Syrian' rebels are? Far away and long ago we got involved in another Civil War in SE Asia. And, if things are so dire fiscally, how can we afford this?

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    Why are we doing this? Do we know who the 'Syrian' rebels are? Far away and long ago we got involved in another Civil War in SE Asia. And, if things are so dire fiscally, how can we afford this?
    Yeah, we should just let another 100k die and Assad can remain king.

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yeah, we should just let another 100k die and Assad can remain king.

    How do we know how many have died? Do we really need to be involved in Civil Wars? With all the bleating about the need for government revenue can we afford it? And finally, how do we know that the anti-Assad folks are any more reasonable than he?

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    How do we know how many have died? Do we really need to be involved in Civil Wars? With all the bleating about the need for government revenue can we afford it? And finally, how do we know that the anti-Assad folks are any more reasonable than he?
    The article claimed the fighters are secular, it seems the US government has more intel than you. Yes, we really need to be involved in dictators slaughtering their own people, we are morally obligated circumstance and context permits intervention. I don't care what we can afford, the US standard of living is too damn high. Well, when the transition government, under the guidance of the UN, starts bombing their own people with the airforce, then we know they are just as bad.

    You don't seem to be seeing the big picture here. The UN supporting the transitional government instead of Iran supporting a dictator. Which do you think is better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The article claimed the fighters are secular, it seems the US government has more intel than you. Yes, we really need to be involved in dictators slaughtering their own people, we are morally obligated circumstance and context permits intervention. I don't care what we can afford, the US standard of living is too damn high. Well, when the transition government, under the guidance of the UN, starts bombing their own people with the airforce, then we know they are just as bad.

    You don't seem to be seeing the big picture here. The UN supporting the transitional government instead of Iran supporting a dictator. Which do you think is better?
    We were also told that the 'fighters' in Libya were secular. I see a big picture here. We are involved in a Civil War. We don't need to be doing that. Governments over the years have killed their own. Hell, we did it. Remember? I take it you supported the actions against Saddam. After all, he killed his own.

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    We were also told that the 'fighters' in Libya were secular. I see a big picture here. We are involved in a Civil War. We don't need to be doing that. Governments over the years have killed their own. Hell, we did it. Remember? I take it you supported the actions against Saddam. After all, he killed his own.
    Ok, dude, that's a bunch of crap that really has nothing to do with the topic, except when you blurt somewhere in the middle "We don't need to be doing that". Aside from that childish and, I believe, wrong claim, is there anything in there that I should address?

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Ok, dude, that's a bunch of crap that really has nothing to do with the topic, except when you blurt somewhere in the middle "We don't need to be doing that". Aside from that childish and, I believe, wrong claim, is there anything in there that I should address?
    We are doing what has gotten us in trouble over and again. We are spending money we don't have on a foreign adventure. Please point out where my claims are wrong.

    BTW: Perhaps you missed this.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/wo...anted=all&_r=0
    Syrian rebels tolerate extremists despite fears from the West - Your Middle East

    There's more if one looks around. You did support taking out Saddam, correct?

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    We are doing what has gotten us in trouble over and again. We are spending money we don't have on a foreign adventure. Please point out where my claims are wrong.

    BTW: Perhaps you missed this.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/wo...anted=all&_r=0
    Syrian rebels tolerate extremists despite fears from the West - Your Middle East

    There's more if one looks around.
    I didn't miss any of that. We cannot allow a dictator to bomb their own with the airforce. Not in Libya and not in Syria.

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    The rebels are not so squeaky clean and although the country is a disaster there are better ways of helping the innocents than by providing aid and arms for the rebels.

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The article claimed the fighters are secular, it seems the US government has more intel than you. Yes, we really need to be involved in dictators slaughtering their own people, we are morally obligated circumstance and context permits intervention. I don't care what we can afford, the US standard of living is too damn high. Well, when the transition government, under the guidance of the UN, starts bombing their own people with the airforce, then we know they are just as bad.

    You don't seem to be seeing the big picture here. The UN supporting the transitional government instead of Iran supporting a dictator. Which do you think is better?
    I agree with your intent, however we (the US) doesn't make a difference because our military is always judged and general consensus dictates the wars we fight.

    We could go in and kick ass, but we don't because people will cry about it and some will even go as far as self immolation or resort to domestic terrorism (Bill Ayers) which I personally find contradictive considering it's like screwing for virginity.

    I suppose my point is that if we want to make a change in the world then we should do it right instead of screwing around.

    Of course geo-politics is crazy stuff any way.

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