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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    While I certainly agree that the Obama Administration is guilty of appalling hypocrisy for allocating funds to a foreign civil war overseas while pissing and moaning about the horrors of sequester and budget cuts at home, I really don't have a terribly large problem with the idea of funding the Syrian Opposition in general concept.

    The Assad regime needs to go. I'm not even talking in a strictly humanitarian sense either. The current Syrian Government is one of Iran's last remaining allies in the region. It's collapse would be a massive blow to Iran's interational prestige and leave the Iranian Government in a weak strategic and political position.

    Completely isolated on a regional level, the Iranians would be far more likely to come to the negotiating table where their nuclear program is concerned. It would also wreak havoc with the Iranian economy and the Iranian public's support for Ahmadinejad's government. It might very well be the final straw necessary to critically destabilize the regime.

    Furthermore, the question of whether or not the Syrian Opposition would be any better than the current regime frankly isn't terribly relevant. The Israelis are more than capable of "cleaning house" in this regard on their own. They were more than a match for a militarily strong and politically unified Syria, the ambitions of a divided Syria which has been decimated by almost half a decade of vicious civil war will be easy to contain by way of comparison.
    It seems to me you are being hopelessly optimistic, though I naturally hope you are right. I think the Muslim Brotherhood and its Islamic allies have a far more realistic long term plan than the western democracies.

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    While I certainly agree that the Obama Administration is guilty of appalling hypocrisy for allocating funds to a foreign civil war overseas while pissing and moaning about the horrors of sequester and budget cuts at home, I really don't have a terribly large problem with the idea of funding the Syrian Opposition in general concept.

    The Assad regime needs to go. I'm not even talking in a strictly humanitarian sense either. The current Syrian Government is one of Iran's last remaining allies in the region. It's collapse would be a massive blow to Iran's interational prestige and leave the Iranian Government in a weak strategic and political position.

    Completely isolated on a regional level, the Iranians would be far more likely to come to the negotiating table where their nuclear program is concerned. It would also wreak havoc with the Iranian economy and the Iranian public's support for Ahmadinejad's government. It might very well be the final straw necessary to critically destabilize the regime.

    Furthermore, the question of whether or not the Syrian Opposition would be any better than the current regime frankly isn't terribly relevant. The Israelis are more than capable of "cleaning house" in this regard on their own. They were more than a match for a militarily strong and politically unified Syria, the ambitions of a divided Syria which has been decimated by almost half a decade of vicious civil war will be easy to contain by way of comparison.
    Problem is the Iranians wont be Isolated.....as the Shi'te have and are Controlling Iraq.

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

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    Hillary Clinton is clueless and would never have gone anywhere without her husband being Bill.
    Oh, please. Where do you get this, Chris Matthews? She rode the bench like Steve Young and after he got his she got hers.

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems to me you are being hopelessly optimistic, though I naturally hope you are right. I think the Muslim Brotherhood and its Islamic allies have a far more realistic long term plan than the western democracies.
    Yes.....that's due to the strategy of using Democracy while saying they are Republic. Course then their delusions get in the way.

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems to me you are being hopelessly optimistic, though I naturally hope you are right. I think the Muslim Brotherhood and its Islamic allies have a far more realistic long term plan than the western democracies.
    That depends upon whether or not they can maintain their political momentum. Egypt has proven to be a somewhat tricky beast to master so far.

    Besides, what does it really profit them to gain control over a devastated husk of a nation anyway? Let them have it, for all I care. As I said before, the Israelis can more than handle themselves.

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    Problem is the Iranians wont be Isolated.....as the Shi'te have and are Controlling Iraq.
    Perhaps, but this hasn't done Iran any particular favors so far. I also doubt that Maliki is in any great rush to toss in his lot with a lame horse.

    If anything, he has proven himself to be a self-interested and opportunistically minded nationalist.
    Last edited by Gathomas88; 03-27-13 at 07:02 PM.

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Oh, please. Where do you get this, Chris Matthews? She rode the bench like Steve Young and after he got his she got hers.
    Are we disagreeing here?

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yes.....that's due to the strategy of using Democracy while saying they are Republic. Course then their delusions get in the way.
    Or ours.

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Are we disagreeing here?
    She could have done what she did without Bill and she supported him to make sure one of them got to the top. She's earned what she got and has performed well enough, even if some people want classified info about Benghazi. She's a hawk; I guess the peaceniks gonna hate.

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    That depends upon whether or not they can maintain their political momentum. Egypt has proven to be somewhat tricky for them to control so far.
    Besides, what does it really profit them to gain control over a devastated husk of a nation anyway? Let them have it, for all I care. As I said before, the Israelis can more than handle themselves.
    It's religious as well as political momentum and although many Islamic countries might be third worldish the fact is that they believe ion their cause, and it's not clear whether any western nations have beliefs which are as strong. How many people in western Europe, for example, would die for their religion or their country? Muslims, meanwhile, are lined up to sacrifice themselves for the glory of Islam. And all they need is a few human sacrifices here and there and we are quite prepared to appease and back off. They know it and we know it.

    Terrorism works.

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    Re: US provides aid to Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    She could have done what she did without Bill and she supported him to make sure one of them got to the top. She's earned what she got and has performed well enough, even if some people want classified info about Benghazi. She's a hawk; I guess the peaceniks gonna hate.
    Oh OK. It's certainly not clear to me what accomplishments she achieved.

    A hawk? Is there any evidence of that apart from words?

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