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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    College professors are always coming up with "controversial" experiments: The question here is whether stepping on the written word "Jesus" is officially considered a form of religious desecration within the said student's form of Christianity...............
    Yes, and in that case, the student should have said so, and I suspect it would have been an interesting heuristic moment, if the professor was a good teacher. The insistence by the student not to step on a piece of paper makes the point wonderfully (and he had every right not to engage in that action -- professors can't force students to engage in an action).

    Now if the professor got all bent out of shape over that, instead of seeing his point made, then he is to blame, not the student. But I suspect the kid caused a scene.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Yes, and in that case, the student should have said so, and I suspect it would have been an interesting heuristic moment, if the professor was a good teacher. The insistence by the student not to step on a piece of paper makes the point wonderfully (and he had every right not to engage in that action -- professors can't force students to engage in an action).

    Now if the professor got all bent out of shape over that, instead of seeing his point made, then he is to blame, not the student. But I suspect the kid caused a scene.
    I think so too, because the idea that Jesus CAN be desecrated by such an act is alien to most historical Christian thought................

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Um, no same sex....
    Aunt Spiker is female though, yes?
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    It really works you up, doesn't it?

    That's it? For a HoJ response, I'd say that was a demonstration of game, set, match....Now go away.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Yeah, they're stupid. Why do you ask?
    Just checking for consitancy. There are many who claim the Muslims justified in their anger but would claim this student as overreacting.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Aunt Spiker is female though, yes?
    oh, right you are...My bad....
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I think so too, because the idea that Jesus CAN be desecrated by such an act is alien to most historical Christian thought................
    Exactly. It's a form of fundie christianity that infests the US mostly and has nothing to do with my Christianity. It's sad really.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Just checking for consitancy. There are many who claim the Muslims justified in their anger but would claim this student as overreacting.
    I doubt it. But I'm glad you're checking up on me.

    The claim that there are "many" who defended the stupidity of certain muslims getting bent out of shape over a cartoon is something of a rightwing noise machine myth. Europe does have a different experience about religious prosecution, which makes them more sensitive to selecting out a religious group for criticism, so some people there might feel the need to bend over backwards not to offend a particular minority religion, but I don't know one person in the US who shares that view (though the Christian Right sure sound like the irate muslims sometime in its paranoia). Again, this has all the earmarks of the rightwing media not understanding that Europe isn't the US and has a different, often frightening history of religious prosecution. That results in a different sensibility. I understand it, though it's not my sensibility.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's it? For a HoJ response, I'd say that was a demonstration of game, set, match....Now go away.
    Yep, you've won the tennis match. Let the rest of us discuss the topic.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    The kid should have wrote the word "Obama" on a piece of paper, threw it at the instructor's feet and said;

    "You first."

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