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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Let the teacher teach. If the student has a problem with the professor's methods, he can quietly leave the class (since he's under no obligation to be there) and withdraw from the course. As much as I find the professor's method unprofessional, we have to respect the sovereignty of professors to teach the way they see fit.

    I'm also highly suspect of the notion that he was suspended JUST for refusing to do the assignment. Students are under no obligation whatsoever to do these things. I imagine the student made a scene about it, or some other inappropriate behavior that led to this suspension.
    I suspect this is the situation also. I can't imagine a professor "suspending" a student for not participating in a class lesson. Indeed, I don't know of any college where professors even have that authority. Professors can flunk a student but not suspend a student. It's a college, not an elementary school, and since students pay, they have procedures for suspension that are pretty rigorous.

    The whole thing sounds like a garbled version that popped out of the rightwing noise machine, or at least the lazy mainstream media.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I suspect this is the situation also. I can't imagine a professor "suspending" a student for not participating in a class lesson. Indeed, I don't know of any college where professors even have that authority. Professors can flunk a student but not suspend a student. It's a college, not an elementary school, and since students pay, they have procedures for suspension that are pretty rigorous.

    The whole thing sounds like a garbled version that popped out of the rightwing noise machine, or at least the lazy mainstream media.
    If we're going to get all psychological now I would call what you posed DENIAL..

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If we're going to get all psychological now I would call what you posed DENIAL..
    Don't get involved in fields of knowledge you don't understand.

    That said, your response is typical of a certain kind of personality that the obstreperous student apparently has. The professor should have used his refusal to step on a piece of paper as a teaching moment -- it demonstrates the rigidity of certain insecure types whose model of the world is so fragile they can't have it challenged without falling apart.

    Psst: by the way, do you have any facts about a professor having the authority to "suspend" college students or are you just blustering.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Don't get involved in fields of knowledge you don't understand.

    That said, your response is typical of a certain kind of personality that the obstreperous student apparently has. The professor should have used his refusal to step on a piece of paper as a teaching moment -- it demonstrates the rigidity of certain insecure types whose model of the world is so fragile they can't have it challenged without falling apart.

    Psst: by the way, do you have any facts about a professor having the authority to "suspend" college students or are you just blustering.
    Oh I understand.....

    If you cant understand then that is your problem... Go back to your frozen dinners and news papers (the ones you agree with).

    People aren't delicate - they're generally selfish and ****ed in the brain and when **** isn't to their liking they go haywire, that or bottle it up over time and explode..

    It doesn't take years to realize that...

    Anthropology is nice tho.. Sentinelese tribe is interesting to say the least ... I suppose you just learned something new?

    Sentinelese people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Now please psychoanalyze me...

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    To try to make her absurd method point, she could have legally used "Obama" or "mother" to stomp on.

    Requiring someone to stop on the name of a person God? And suspending the student for not doing so? Wow, if ever there was a lawsuit for violating separation of church and state - from the pro-religion side - that might be it. Using public funds to have people stomp on their God's name???

    COULD YOU IMAGINE IF the teacher had instead had students write "Barack Hussein Obama" on the paper and then to stomp on it?

    As for trying to show "the power of words" since only 1 student refused, the professor disproved her point. In addition, the professor - with the suspension - proved the only true power words have concerns punitive censorship by the powers that be.
    1. I said the procedure was stupid if it was just as described by the kid. I find it slightly unlikely though. And I highly doubt he was suspended just for not participating. These kinds of stories often get pushed without all the info then week later when all of it comes out, the outraged crowd has already moved on to another topic. You are assuming everything went down exactly as the kid described, which is at best, an uninformed decision on your part. We don't know exactly how it happened.

    2. If the teacher had said write "Obama" on a piece of paper, it would have gotten less, or possible even the same coverage, but not some extraordinary amount like you are supposing.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'd throw a chair across the room and say "analyze that."

    I love ****ing with those interested in the field of "humanity" (broad field).

    Psychology, Anthropology, Sociology is all BS ... There are 7 billion people in the world with 7 billion different personalities..We're not the same...
    I generally agree with you on that, though I think throwing a chair across the room would not be the best way to make the point.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    I generally agree with you on that, though I think throwing a chair across the room would not be the best way to make the point.
    No, probably not, the fact that someone reacts so emotionally really says that there's something wrong with them. As far as I'm concerned, a college student is someone who is *PAYING* for the classroom experience, they are not agreeing to be the slave to their professor's whims. If they choose not to participate in a classroom exercise, they should not be penalized so long as they can answer all the questions right on the tests. These are not children (unless you're throwing things around the room), these are adults paying your paycheck.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

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    Opposite sex.
    Um, no same sex....

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    That said, your response is typical of a certain kind of personality that the obstreperous student apparently has.
    Yeah? What kind of personality is that? One that holds their own religious views, and refuses to participate in the disgusting exercise?

    As my son, whom is in collage as well said, he wouldn't have done that either, then if confronted that he wasn't completing the exercise, he said that he would have been completing it, because if the exercise was to study how cultures react to that, then his reaction is valid.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah? What kind of personality is that? One that holds their own religious views, and refuses to participate in the disgusting exercise?

    As my son, whom is in collage as well said, he wouldn't have done that either, then if confronted that he wasn't completing the exercise, he said that he would have been completing it, because if the exercise was to study how cultures react to that, then his reaction is valid.
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