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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    The idea that desecrating a symbol of a divinity is equivalent to desecrating the actual divinity is an Islamic idea, not a Christian one...............

    You miss the point, which is be respectful to people's beliefs.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    You miss the point, which is be respectful to people's beliefs.

    and like many others on this forum - YOU miss the point of the exercise and have obviously not read the explanation for the exercise.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    and like many others on this forum - YOU miss the point of the exercise and have obviously not read the explanation for the exercise.
    I did read it thank you very much...

    The explanation was as lame as the exercise. stomping on a piece of paper has what intellectual merit?

    Exactly... None.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I did read it thank you very much...

    The explanation was as lame as the exercise. stomping on a piece of paper has what intellectual merit?

    Exactly... None.

    If you read the explanation, then you would not have posted the words you put here - or maybe you just don't comprehend those words. "stomping" is a word only used by those who claim this is some desecration of a sacred object.

    Would you step on a piece of paper that had Исус written on it? How about İsa? or यीशु?

    Would you step on the word, शैतान? How about şeytan or сатаната?
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    If you read the explanation, then you would not have posted the words you put here - or maybe you just don't comprehend those words. "stomping" is a word only used by those who claim this is some desecration of a sacred object.

    Would you step on a piece of paper that had Исус written on it? How about İsa? or यीशु?

    Would you step on the word, शैतान? How about şeytan or сатаната?
    Step, stomp, tap, tippy toe, don't mean a damn thing. To answer your question NO, I wouldn't, I'd say why am I wasting my time on this silly crap, TEACH you over paid, under worked, panty waste of a pseudo-intellectual!

    Your lack of comportment reveals much, to you I say good day!

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Step, stomp, tap, tippy toe, don't mean a damn thing. To answer your question NO, I wouldn't, I'd say why am I wasting my time on this silly crap, TEACH you over paid, under worked, panty waste of a pseudo-intellectual!

    Your lack of comportment reveals much, to you I say good day!


    Yet more proof that you didn't read the explanation or lesson plan is this reply you offer. I'm the one asking questions that you can't, or are unable to answer, questions that were stated in a straight-forward manner with zero denigration.


    So you are a student in a class that you have been taking for two and a half months, January to March, and when asked to participate in an exercise - your response is a non-rational attack on the subject and the teacher. Such behaviour would seem to indicate that you have failed to comprehend the purpose of the class.

    I wonder what Mr Rotela's grades for the course were up to the day of the incident.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Yet more proof that you didn't read the explanation or lesson plan is this reply you offer. I'm the one asking questions that you can't, or are unable to answer, questions that were stated in a straight-forward manner with zero denigration.


    So you are a student in a class that you have been taking for two and a half months, January to March, and when asked to participate in an exercise - your response is a non-rational attack on the subject and the teacher. Such behaviour would seem to indicate that you have failed to comprehend the purpose of the class.

    I wonder what Mr Rotela's grades for the course were up to the day of the incident.
    The student excelled, even though belligerent. He provided the perfect backdrop for the lesson. The professor failed horribly by excluding him because the student got angry (thus providing a "successful" social experiement which ended up failing. And ostracizing extreme religion instead of providing a mechanism for 2 way communication between the 2 realms of thought.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    The student excelled, even though belligerent. He provided the perfect backdrop for the lesson. The professor failed horribly by excluding him because the student got angry (thus providing a "successful" social experiement which ended up failing. And ostracizing extreme religion instead of providing a mechanism for 2 way communication between the 2 realms of thought.

    None of us know if the student excelled on an academic level; was he passing or failing the class before the incident under discussion?

    For those who think Christians are being persecuted in this country, Mr Rotela is a fine example validating their beliefs. For others, it is looking more and more like a pre-planned incident aimed at a political opponent.

    The faculty at FAU is not happy over the actions of the school's administration. Then there is the small matter that the one person receiving death threats is the professor - how do Christians justify such threats? For some appear to be interpreting "Turn the other cheek" as "Turn my head so I can't see what those guys are doing when they make threats"


    When one side refuses to "communicate" in a rational manner, there can be no communication.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    He provided the perfect backdrop for the lesson. The professor failed horribly by excluding him because the student got angry
    Why are people still so ignorant of the very short list of actual facts in the public domain about this case despite multiple links and quotes directly stating them?

    The professor didn't exclude the student from anything. The suspension (from that class only) was imposed by the school administatiors. The stated explaination for that suspension was the standard procedure when a complaint is being investigated and I see no evidence to doubt that.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    more on the story from the Palm Beach Post

    today's editorial - Editorial: FAU compromising academic freedom with response to... | www.palmbeachpost.com

    op-ed piece by an FAU professor - Commentary: FAU must support academic freedom during

    a chance to vote on the "Stomp on Jesus" exercise - Is “Step on Jesus” academic exercise appropriate? | The Opinion Zone blog | The Palm Beach Post



    there are some truly 'lovely' comments with the three articles
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    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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