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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, first of all, not to be snarky Ditto, but Dr. Deandre Poole is a man. Second, he is the vice chair of the W. Palm Beach democrat party...is that liberal enough? As for the textbook, maybe he should have considered, using a little of that 'critical thinking' skill so loved to be lauded by libs, what might be a better way to teach the lesson instead of some jack ass exercise that could offend someone.

    Ya think?
    Deandre is a man? I know he was referred to in the feminine in this thread.

    OK, so he's a Democrat. You made your point.

    Of course, he could be a Republican, and still be a liberal, but then, that's another issue.

    Yes, using those "critical thinking' skills so loved to be lauded by libs, would have led him to use a non religious figure for the lesson, no doubt.

    Do only libs like critical thinking? If so, that explains the popularity of Rush Limbaugh.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, because we tend to hear today of these stories where liberal progressives are doing things like this, claiming 'free speech' or what ever, but if there is a story where a teacher wants to say, teach intelligent design along side with evolution, then the long knives come out don't they? All of the sudden, its mixing religion and science....

    So maybe a better question is, why is that liberals feel it necessary to inject a religious figure into their course study so they can, ahem, "force" the student to think about their beliefs....Who are they to force anyone to challenge their religious beliefs? They should stick to teaching, and stop trying to be clever....

    Maybe there are protests over teaching "intelligent design along side with evolution" is because "intelligent design" is not science, and as evolution has nothing to do with religion -- maybe, just maybe, biology teachers think they shouldn't discuss religious matters in science class.


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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Deandre is a man? I know he was referred to in the feminine in this thread.

    OK, so he's a Democrat. You made your point.

    Of course, he could be a Republican, and still be a liberal, but then, that's another issue.

    Yes, using those "critical thinking' skills so loved to be lauded by libs, would have led him to use a non religious figure for the lesson, no doubt.

    Do only libs like critical thinking? If so, that explains the popularity of Rush Limbaugh.
    Can I give a 3/4 like on this one? The last quip was a cheap shot...heh, heh....
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Can I give a 3/4 like on this one? The last quip was a cheap shot...heh, heh....
    yes, it was.
    But Limbaugh is such an easy target.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're right, on a totally hypothetical level, it doesn't mean that. But, I would say that I understand the facts that we know pretty well. Your attempt here to make everything a semantic exercise is, in my view, just another attempt to dishonestly this about supposition rather than the easily understood, and clear mishandling of this situation on the part of the University, and since this mishandling resulted in the national news attention, the University is left with egg on their faces, as so often happens when liberals are caught in their sniveling little power plays.
    all you are really saying is that you don't understand. the university's decision was pragmatic, not based on the fact that the student was right.

    large organisations often make similar choices.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    all you are really saying is that you don't understand. the university's decision was pragmatic, not based on the fact that the student was right.

    large organisations often make similar choices.
    They do, and I imagine most of them are based on whether they have a legal leg to stand on. Nothing wrong with a pragmatic decision that avoids litigation and continued negative publicity. FAU had already been unfavorably depicted in the press before this happened--the "truther" prof who doubted whether Sandy Hook really happened, for example.

    None of us knows for sure what the university based its decision on, though.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    all you are really saying is that you don't understand. the university's decision was pragmatic, not based on the fact that the student was right.

    large organisations often make similar choices.

    Wait a minute....So you're saying that it is ok for the student to be punished for complaining about the exercise? Wow, how thin skinned are libs?
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    They do, and I imagine most of them are based on whether they have a legal leg to stand on. Nothing wrong with a pragmatic decision that avoids litigation and continued negative publicity. FAU had already been unfavorably depicted in the press before this happened--the "truther" prof who doubted whether Sandy Hook really happened, for example.

    None of us knows for sure what the university based its decision on, though.
    not necessarily. there are some decisions where the basis of the decision in legal terms is very grey.

    other cases that I am aware of include payments made "without prejudice", or other concessions made to save face, to defuse a volatile issue or to avoid bad publicity

    there are also cases where a decision is made on a goodwill basis.

    in view of the fact that someone had gone to the media, and it had already attracted bad publicity, shutting it down rather than defending the action would be the more pragmatic path.

    personally, I wish universities would not allow themselves to be bullied by popular opinion.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait a minute....So you're saying that it is ok for the student to be punished for complaining about the exercise? Wow, how thin skinned are libs?
    no. I disapprove of loud mouthed bullies holding education to ransom.

    but I can understand why the University President/VC would want to shut down the issue rather than continue to attract bad publicity, especially based on some of the media reports.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    no. I disapprove of loud mouthed bullies holding education to ransom.

    but I can understand why the University President/VC would want to shut down the issue rather than continue to attract bad publicity, especially based on some of the media reports.
    So, if a ridiculous exercise, that is offensive, is proffered by a liberal teacher, and someone is offended by the lesson, that person is a "bully" if he/she speaks out? How about the 'bully' teacher that is so thinned skinned that he can't even take being informed that a complaint will be lodged for his ridiculous lesson...Interesting that the media reports on this, and all of the sudden it is a 'bully' media picking on the poor educrats....But if it were the other way around you'd be the first excusing their reports....hmmmmmm...
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