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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    How do you get that from what is being said in this thread?
    Well, the most glaring example in this situation would be that the liberal teacher thought it appropriate to offend the beliefs of students, that as one poster put it, to "force" them to consider those beliefs. The teacher I would think, among other things consider this as an exercise in 'free speech' as much as anything else. But, when the offended student approaches the teacher and complains, and informs the teacher that he will be lodging a complaint higher up the school chain, then the teacher files an accusation of 'threat' against the student....So, with that in mind seems to me that the teacher wants 'free speech' to be able to offend at will, and no one should speak up against it...

    Think of it this way....When the guy in Michigan was at a Union rally against RTW laws being passed, and was attacked by the Union thugs, apparently 'free speech' only went one way in the minds of many liberal supporters of the union thugs actions in here. Same thing, on a different scale admittedly but still.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    That last little bit about "double entendre" was a typo on my part. I hope it is clear to the readers that my words are those in bold Georgia font.
    Considering what you wrote, and the attitude taken in your response, it is clear you are not able to discuss this rationally, so I will beg off debating this with you.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, the most glaring example in this situation would be that the liberal teacher thought it appropriate to offend the beliefs of students, that as one poster put it, to "force" them to consider those beliefs. The teacher I would think, among other things consider this as an exercise in 'free speech' as much as anything else. But, when the offended student approaches the teacher and complains, and informs the teacher that he will be lodging a complaint higher up the school chain, then the teacher files an accusation of 'threat' against the student....So, with that in mind seems to me that the teacher wants 'free speech' to be able to offend at will, and no one should speak up against it...

    Think of it this way....When the guy in Michigan was at a Union rally against RTW laws being passed, and was attacked by the Union thugs, apparently 'free speech' only went one way in the minds of many liberal supporters of the union thugs actions in here. Same thing, on a different scale admittedly but still.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Neither side of most arguments genuinely want free speech. They want free speech for what they believe and they want the rest to be censored.
    Well, in some cases that is certainly a fair assessment.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    The only way this is wrong is if they are told they will fail if they do not step on the paper and punish anyone who acts out belligerently. This would be religious baiting. If this kid's final straw was that he threatened a teacher after the teacher antagonized him then the teacher completely failed his own lesson and needs to be fired along with whoever went along with it.
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    The only way this is wrong is if they are told they will fail if they do not step on the paper and punish anyone who acts out belligerently.
    Failing I don't believe this would be the case for a single lesson in the class, but punished, this kid went through it, before it was retracted.

    This would be religious baiting.
    More like trying to challenge the students belief system if you ask me, and the question I have in that respect is what business is it of the teacher's, if the students want to believe in God or not?

    If this kid's final straw was that he threatened a teacher after the teacher antagonized him then the teacher completely failed his own lesson and needs to be fired along with whoever went along with it.
    I agree, but I don't think that the student "threatened" anyone....According to the attorney of the student, he waited til after class, and approached the teacher, and told him that he didn't agree with the lesson, and would be reporting his complaint to the department head, further that he shouldn't be doing that, and he'd be back....What a wimp this vice chair of the W. Palm Beach democrat party, posing as a teacher is....But yeah, I don't think the University has any intention of bringing him back, as they made it a point of expressing that this was an un If this kid's final straw was that he threatened a teacher after the teacher antagonized him then the teacher completely failed his own lesson and needs to be fired along with whoever went along with it. But, yeah I don't think that the University has any intention of bringing the teacher back as they made it a point to point out that this was an un tenured instructor, with only a one year contract...
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do you think it applicable to apply modern social/political ideologies to a figure that existed long before those paradigms existed?
    Actually, no.

    so, why does stepping on a paper with Jesus' name on it have anything to do with liberalism vs conservatism?
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Actually, no.

    so, why does stepping on a paper with Jesus' name on it have anything to do with liberalism vs conservatism?
    Well, because we tend to hear today of these stories where liberal progressives are doing things like this, claiming 'free speech' or what ever, but if there is a story where a teacher wants to say, teach intelligent design along side with evolution, then the long knives come out don't they? All of the sudden, its mixing religion and science....

    So maybe a better question is, why is that liberals feel it necessary to inject a religious figure into their course study so they can, ahem, "force" the student to think about their beliefs....Who are they to force anyone to challenge their religious beliefs? They should stick to teaching, and stop trying to be clever....
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, because we tend to hear today of these stories where liberal progressives are doing things like this, claiming 'free speech' or what ever, but if there is a story where a teacher wants to say, teach intelligent design along side with evolution, then the long knives come out don't they? All of the sudden, its mixing religion and science....

    So maybe a better question is, why is that liberals feel it necessary to inject a religious figure into their course study so they can, ahem, "force" the student to think about their beliefs....Who are they to force anyone to challenge their religious beliefs? They should stick to teaching, and stop trying to be clever....
    I believe the instructor was following the textbook.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I believe the instructor was following the textbook.

    How do you know she was a liberal?
    Well, first of all, not to be snarky Ditto, but Dr. Deandre Poole is a man. Second, he is the vice chair of the W. Palm Beach democrat party...is that liberal enough? As for the textbook, maybe he should have considered, using a little of that 'critical thinking' skill so loved to be lauded by libs, what might be a better way to teach the lesson instead of some jack ass exercise that could offend someone.

    Ya think?
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