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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    If progressives are so amused by this "task" how would they feel if they were told to jump on MLK's head? maybe Muhammad's (if you were allowed to draw "him" in the first place?) JFK, LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Che Guevara, Obama, Mao, Lenin., Stalin, Castro, Nancy Pelosi?

    OH that would be biased or racist in your minds now wouldn't it?? yeaaaaaaaahhhhh - it would be front page news on every mainstream news media outlet.

    Naw, it's a black guy telling a white Mormon male to stomp on Jesus - makes perfect sense to the communists and those who are on the mainstream hate bandwagon who beg for tolerance.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If progressives are so amused by this "task" how would they feel if they were told to jump on MLK's head? maybe Muhammad's (if you were allowed to draw "him" in the first place?) JFK, LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Che Guevara, Obama, Mao, Lenin., Stalin, Castro, Nancy Pelosi?

    OH that would be biased or racist in your minds now wouldn't it?? yeaaaaaaaahhhhh - it would be front page news on every mainstream news media outlet.

    Naw, it's a black guy telling a white Mormon male to stomp on Jesus - makes perfect sense to the communists and those who are on the mainstream hate bandwagon who beg for tolerance.
    apart from the fact that stomping on a piece of paper is not the same as stomping on someone's head (maybe you don't understand that ... but most people do ...) if you are substituting all these other names, that only underlines that you can't grasp the purpose of the exercise in the first place.

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    do you think that threats of violence against prof poole can be justified?

    BOCA RATON, Fla. --The Florida Atlantic University professor who reportedly had students write the name "Jesus" in large letters on a piece of paper, put it on the floor and stomp on it has been placed on administrative leave for his safety, according to university officials.

    As a result of the reaction to the "Jesus stomping" exercise in Dr. Deandre Poole's intercultural communications class, his personal safety is compromised, FAU said.

    FAU said this decision will prevent further disruption to the day-to-day operations at the university.


    Read more: Dr. Deandre Poole, Florida Atlantic University professor in 'Jesus stomping' debacle, put on leave
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    do you value freedom of speech?

    As Mary Katharine Ham, my debating partner on "The O'Reilly Factor," correctly noted during the segment, Americans have a right to say they don’t like stepping on Jesus’ name. But stopping the academic exercise is wrong.

    The reaction against FAU and the teacher strikes me as an attempt to shut down free speech and silence educators who use provocative teaching methods.

    Look on the Internet and you will see people calling for the teacher to be fired.

    That disturbs me. What these critics want is to suppress free speech. That’s not Christian. That’s not American.


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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    apart from the fact that stomping on a piece of paper is not the same as stomping on someone's head (maybe you don't understand that ... But most people do ...) if you are substituting all these other names, that only underlines that you can't grasp the purpose of the exercise in the first place.

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    Do you think that threats of violence against prof poole can be justified?

    no it is the same as stomping on jesus's head - the message is quite clear, and it doesn't take an idiot to realize that on easter sunday.

    If it matters to you - i will fly an upside down us flag all day everyday but will never let it touch the ground (if it did i'd burn it). You know why? Nope you don't.

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    I do find it very interesting .... where are the Christians speaking out about the reactions of their extremist brethren?
    The Florida Atlantic University instructor involved in the controversial "stomp on Jesus" class assignment has been placed on paid leave, with the school citing concerns for his safety.
    Communications instructor Deandre Poole, who is black, has had death threats and racially charged messages left on his voice mail and in his email, said Chris Robe, president of the FAU chapter of the faculty union.





    "I've never seen anything like it on campus, the vitriol that has been released on this guy," said Robe, an assistant professor of communications.
    Poole, who could not be reached for comment Friday, has been the subject of numerous derogatory postings on blogs and Twitter, many of which give out his FAU email address.
    "As a result of the reaction to a recent exercise in Dr. Poole's intercultural communications class, the instructor's personal safety has been compromised," according to a university statement released Friday. "In addition, this decision will prevent further disruption to the day-to-day operations of Florida Atlantic University.''
    During a March 4 class on the Davie campus, Poole asked students to write Jesus on a sheet of paper, throw it on the floor and then step on it. It was part of a lesson on the impact of words included in the instructor's guide of the class textbook, written by a professor at St. Norbert College in Wisconsin.
    The exercise attracted national attention after Ryan Rotela, a student in the class, informed the media. FAU apologized March 22 and said the assignment wouldn't be used again. On Tuesday, Gov. Rick Scott asked the State University System to investigate the matter and called Rotela to apologize.
    Rotela, reached Friday, said he was shocked to learn Poole may be facing threats to his safety.
    "Leave the poor guy alone. I'm pretty sure he's been through enough," Rotela said. "People make mistakes. He shouldn't be demonized or killed for it."
    No reports of threats against Poole have been filed with FAU police, but "other agencies may have them," university spokeswoman Lisa Metcalf said.
    Poole is also an adjunct professor who teaches a speech communication class at Broward College in Davie. A college spokeswoman couldn't be reached Friday evening as to his status there.
    It's unusual but not unprecedented to place an instructor on paid leave over safety concerns, said Jenn Nichols, of the Washington D.C.-based American Association of University Professors.
    "If there's a threat of immediate harm, the university has to act on that," Nichols said.
    Poole is a non-tenured faculty member and FAU won't say whether his one-year contract will be renewed next year.
    Faculty are concerned about FAU's reaction to the incident, Robe said. After first defending the assignment, the university promised not to use it again. But professors don't vet their class assignments with administrators, he said, and academic freedom is included in the collective bargaining agreement.




    "Someone being offended does not give the university the right to censor," he said. "Part of the mission of the modern university is to discuss controversial topics in a respectful fashion. Once that's compromised, people are going to be afraid to discuss anything that someone finds offensive."
    Florida Atlantic University places instructor of "stomp on Jesus" assignment on paid leave - Sun Sentinel
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    do you value freedom of speech?
    Sorry but forcing an individual to stomp on Jesus for class credit goes waaay beyond free speech..... The clown that attempted such an act should be fired. Nooo he wont be because progressives love it....

    Freedom of Speech is KNOWINGLY AND WILLINGLY stepping on an (I suppose in this case an object) without coercion or threat... Big flippin difference buddy...

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    no it is the same as stomping on jesus's head - the message is quite clear, and it doesn't take an idiot to realize that on easter sunday.

    If it matters to you - i will fly an upside down us flag all day everyday but will never let it touch the ground (if it did i'd burn it). You know why? Nope you don't.
    I don't get your point .....

    you said:

    "If progressives are so amused by this "task"how would they feel if they were told to jump on MLK's head? maybe Muhammad's (if you were allowed to draw "him" in the first place?) JFK, LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Che Guevara, Obama, Mao, Lenin., Stalin, Castro, Nancy Pelosi?"


    ....I was responding to that.
    I could certainly stomp on a piece of paper with any of those names on, none of them have any particular significance to me .... but to jump on someone's (anyone's)head?

    that is completely different.

    don't you understand that?
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Sorry but forcing an individual to stomp on Jesus for class credit goes waaay beyond free speech..... The clown that attempted such an act should be fired. Nooo he wont be because progressives love it....

    Freedom of Speech is KNOWINGLY AND WILLINGLY stepping on an (I suppose in this case an object) without coercion or threat... Big flippin difference buddy...
    I class you as the same as those muslims who get all fired up about cartoons.

    I say that, because you seem to be as willing to check facts as they tend to be.... your indignation is over what you imagine to be the case.

    I wonder what you would do if you were in the neighbourhood and a mob was making its way to the campus?
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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    I don't get your point .....

    you said:

    "If progressives are so amused by this "task"how would they feel if they were told to jump on MLK's head? maybe Muhammad's (if you were allowed to draw "him" in the first place?) JFK, LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Che Guevara, Obama, Mao, Lenin., Stalin, Castro, Nancy Pelosi?"


    ....I was responding to that.
    I could certainly stomp on a piece of paper with any of those names on, none of them have any particular significance to me .... but to jump on someone's (anyone's)head?

    that is completely different.

    don't you understand that?
    The difference is in my implied implied situation I wouldn't be telling anyone to stop on anyones heads UNDER DURESS...

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    Re: FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    I class you as the same as those muslims who get all fired up about cartoons.

    I say that, because you seem to be as willing to check facts as they tend to be.... your indignation is over what you imagine to be the case.

    I wonder what you would do if you were in the neighbourhood and a mob was making its way to the campus?
    You can put me in any category you like - I just know the difference between force and willingness over something such as a grade.

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