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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Formerly in American history Presidential nominees operated basically independently of their Party platform (the most famous example is probably that of the Democratic peace platform of 1864, which was unceremoniously ignored by the Democratic candidate, General George McClellan). That wouldn't fly today, because the political process has been altered to make a point of neutering nominees before they even get to the ballot.
    I don't think the political process has changed. The 1864 Democratic convention was much different, because of the events of the time. The nomination was between McClellan (a war Democrat) and Thomas Seymour (a Copperhead). There was no way a Copperhead was going to get the nomination.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

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    Is that the ND state mascot ?....................These hicks are unintelligible...................

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't think the political process has changed. The 1864 Democratic convention was much different, because of the events of the time. The nomination was between McClellan (a war Democrat) and Thomas Seymour (a Copperhead). There was no way a Copperhead was going to get the nomination.
    Sure it has. The McGovern-Fraser Commission alone guaranteed that any candidate would now have to make it through the primaries to become the nominee, which automatically means that the nominee is inextricably bound to the Party platform. He has much less leeway today to be his own man than previously, when Party bosses could anoint a nominee without needing the explicit approval of the primary voters.
    I dip my forefinger in the watery blood of your impotent mad-redeemer (your Divine Democrat — your Hebrew Madman) and write over his thorn-torn brow, “The true prince of Evil — the king of the Slaves!”
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Is that the ND state mascot ?....................These hicks are unintelligible...................
    I suppose the concept of a "reference" is foreign to you?
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Equal Rights Amendment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Yes, I think the Federal Marriage Amendment in the Republican platform will, in the best-case scenario, follow this course, as unfortunate as it is.
    Potentially, but I don't quite think this will be the same. I see the traction for a state plank more successful than a federal--->state ratification ERA.
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I suppose the concept of a "reference" is foreign to you?
    Would I be wrong in thinking you're trying to get "deep" here ?...........................

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriage <-- hahaha




    Things could get real fun on the right over the next few years....
    Who says that Rove speaks for anyone other than the establishment, progressive wing of the GOP?
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Would I be wrong in thinking you're trying to get "deep" here ?...........................
    Pervert.

    Ah, no, I'm not. It was meant to be a joke, but you had to be a Stiffly Stifferson about it.
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who says that Rove speaks for anyone other than the establishment, progressive wing of the GOP?


    The establishment is good for you. It just takes calculated compromise to get votes. No sense in isolating the party from fairly clear changes in the political landscape.
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who says that Rove speaks for anyone other than the establishment, progressive wing of the GOP?
    The Republican Establishment is "progressive"? O.o

    No. The Republican Establishment is, at best, Nixonian.
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