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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Sometimes I flaunt my hetro ness right out there in public.
    That's considered sexual assault.

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Or maybe sexual insult.
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    That's considered sexual assault.
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    This will all be settled long before 2016. Probably this year. The Supreme Court is already on the case.
    No....

    If you think the SCOTUS even has the flipp'n authority to hear this case then the Tenth Amendment is garbage...

    There is no Goddamn amendment that says ANYTHING ABOUT MARRIAGE hence the SCOTUS should stay the **** out of this issue.

    If gay supporters want marriage then AMEND the ****ing Constitution instead of running to courts... Oh yeah, I forgot congress cannot and never could pass a "marriage" amendment...

    **** half these clowns we have elected couldn't write a ****ing summery...
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't really like evangelists, however it is quite clear you have absolutely ZERO concept of Christianity given your comment.

    We're all sinners - That is why Jesus was crucified (or allowed himself to be)..

    There is no such thing as a mortal perfect being....

    I find it amusing how the progressive atheists sit there an attempt to imply evangelicals should be perfect.... At least evangelicals at least try to be the best they can be and do everything in their power to avoid what casual people or secular individuals would call "pleasures."

    Sorry, I had to get that out of my system...
    I never said they should be perfect, just not ignorant fools.

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No....
    If you think the SCOTUS even has the flipp'n authority to hear this case then the Tenth Amendment is garbage...
    There is no Goddamn amendment that says ANYTHING ABOUT MARRIAGE hence the SCOTUS should stay the **** out of this issue.
    You need to revisit the 9th amendment.
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
    Furthermore, you can't make your argument unless you object to Loving v Virginia as well, which also infringed upon the states' rights to define marriage.
    The only way Loving v Virginia had standing is by first acknowledging that marriage was a right, which was already established in other previous rulings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If gay supporters want marriage then AMEND the ****ing Constitution instead of running to courts... Oh yeah, I forgot congress cannot and never could pass a "marriage" amendment...
    **** half these clowns we have elected couldn't write a ****ing summery...
    I am curious how long it will take for Congress to pass the next amendment. The last attempt was the DOMA amendment attempt.
    I think we won't see any amendments from Congress for a long time.
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by foundit66 View Post
    You need to revisit the 9th amendment.
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
    Furthermore, you can't make your argument unless you object to Loving v Virginia as well, which also infringed upon the states' rights to define marriage.
    The only way Loving v Virginia had standing is by first acknowledging that marriage was a right, which was already established in other previous rulings.


    I am curious how long it will take for Congress to pass the next amendment. The last attempt was the DOMA amendment attempt.
    I think we won't see any amendments from Congress for a long time.
    I think the last amendment that passed congress and was ratified by the states was the one that allowed 18 year olds to vote. That was 1971. I do not count the 27th amendment as that was passed by congress in 1789 and not ratified by the states until 1992. So the last recent proposed amendment that passed congress and was ratified by the states was the 26th. I, like you think there will probably be no more amendments that can pass congress. Congress has become way to polorized and you would need 2/3rd of both chambers to pass an amendment.

    For any amendment on gay marriage to pass, you would need 290 members of the house and 67 senators voting for it. That will not happen, period.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by foundit66 View Post
    I am curious how long it will take for Congress to pass the next amendment. The last attempt was the DOMA amendment attempt.
    I think we won't see any amendments from Congress for a long time.
    Strictly speaking no DOMA amendment ever got past the planning stage. The last amendment tried was the ERA, and it failed. The SCOTUS just reinterpretted the Constitution to enable ERA anyway, making it superflous.

    We're all the way down the false road the SCOTUS has led us to where the court is in charge of amending the Constitution and the people have no part in it.

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Or maybe sexual insult.
    I don't think you got it.

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    I didn't. I thought you were trying to make a funny.
    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I don't think you got it.
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I never said they should be perfect, just not ignorant fools.
    Yeah well Jesus died on the cross so they can be "ignorant fools."

    Ignorance is the notion that some believe evangelicals should shed their faith to be more "progressive."

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