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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    It's different because homosexuality is abnormal - because it is NORMAL for a man and woman to be together, because 98% of the population is heterosexual...
    I suppose anyone could show up to work in an Donald Duck suit as well and make the same argument you're attempting to make then say "well some employees at Disneyland dress up as Donald Duck."
    "Normal" is such a loaded value judgment on the issue.
    I've found that when people talk about homosexuality not being "normal", what they are typically relying on is their own moral values on the issue.

    For example, if we examine a claim of "normal" based on statistics, we could equally say interracial couples are not "normal" in the U.S. due to how few of them there are. But most people accept such non-normal situations.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    May as well go to Saudi Arabia and crack a 40 oz bottle of beer and say "so what we drink this **** back home."
    Interesting.
    Such an analogy hints at prejudice and intolerance being the common thread.
    I wouldn't think the intolerance in the middle east would be a good comparison on the issue, at least for those criticizing gays doing what straights do in public...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'd bet anything that the majority of individuals that are for "civil unions" would be opposed to gays making out in public..
    What do you mean by "oppose"?
    If you mean they would think negatively of it, then I personally see that as irrelevant. Such opinions don't keep me up at night.
    We could talk for quite a while about the different ways that people are judged in public, but we're all entitled to an opinion.
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Not a "modern republican."

    I don't like the present day language used to describe political affiliation. People use republican and liberal too loosely, I prefer preciseness when labels are thrown around.
    If you're not a Republican, why do you care what they think about gays?


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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So it's not about personal freedom, it's about normal and abnormal?



    What you do on your spare time is not up to me. I think most people would get fired for wearing a Donald Duck suit, but there's no need for the government to step in. If you want to wear one, and your employer is OK with it, fine by me.



    Well, that's actually illegal in Saudi Arabia, so it's not really the same thing.



    I personally don't like when anybody goes at it in public. There's a little kiss and then there's foreplay.
    If it really matters to you - I've gotten pretty "hot" with chicks in public (bars or private venues) and you want to know what happened? "security" told us to knock it off....

    So why shouldn't those same rules apply to gays?

    Gays probably have more liberty at gay bars than heterosexual people do at "normal bars."

    I just don't want to see two guys at Denny's making out while I'm trying to eat my breakfast - but that is the type of crazy **** gays do...

    That **** isn't progress it's disrespectful.... There is always a time and place for everything but gays don't understand that.

    Funny how gay conservatives realize that but gay progressives don't.

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    You mean the Conservative majority in the US, Dumb Canucklehead??
    There is no conservative majority, just another small arm of the GOP much like the Tea Party.
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    If you're not a Republican, why do you care what they think about gays?
    I don't give a **** what republicans think....

    As a matter of fact I dislike modern republicans as much as I dislike progressives - republicans only try to throw us libertarians off the ballot every cycle... RINO's hate libertarians...

    I've been telling libertarians to run as democrats if they cant get the republican support they need... I don't really think it matters republican or democrat.. You run as a libertarian you're considered a nut, you run as a democrat or republican you make sense to either voting block despite the fact your ideas have never changed..

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriage <-- hahaha

    Things could get real fun on the right over the next few years....
    Comments like these by Karl Rove do nothing but demonstrate to be how unprincipled he is as a human being. He just wants to win, period. He isn't motivated by some larger goal, some noble cause - just by winning. I honestly don't know if I can stand people like him more or if can't stand people who have horrible principles.

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I thought the evangelicals would put the stop to Romney cause he is a cultist. I dont think they have the power they once did.
    The only time the GOP needs the evangelists is on voting day. After that their views don't matter one bit to them. You'd think that they would catch on.

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    This will all be settled long before 2016. Probably this year. The Supreme Court is already on the case.
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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLiberty View Post
    I think we are seeing the beginning of a split in the republican party, perhaps even a viable third party. My belief is you'll have the republican party which will be democrat lite, and then you'll have a true conservative party who stand on principle and believe in small government. Right now the repubs are in a shambles and don't know what to stand for.
    Yes. They are suposed to stand for following the rules no matter what.

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    Re: Karl Rove: 'I Could' Imagine Next GOP Presidential Nominee Supporting Gay Marriag

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only time the GOP needs the evangelists is on voting day. After that their views don't matter one bit to them. You'd think that they would catch on.
    I don't really like evangelists, however it is quite clear you have absolutely ZERO concept of Christianity given your comment.

    We're all sinners - That is why Jesus was crucified (or allowed himself to be)..

    There is no such thing as a mortal perfect being....

    I find it amusing how the progressive atheists sit there an attempt to imply evangelicals should be perfect.... At least evangelicals at least try to be the best they can be and do everything in their power to avoid what casual people or secular individuals would call "pleasures."

    Sorry, I had to get that out of my system...

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