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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    After reading the story in a couple of different places, I found it interesting that she reportedly had a teenage son who was also killed, when they lived up north somewhere (sorry, I forget exactly where, but I think it was in the NE coastal area). It seems odd to me that this one woman lost two children, in two different circumstances, to youth violence.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

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    Except, the boy tagged as the shooter now has his aunt saying he was with her at the time of the crime...
    Well that's convenient.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    IF the mother is involved... and there's no way to know that beyond the fact that her tearless cry-stop-cry routine was creepy... I doubt her own wounds were self-inflicted. A theory could be made that the mother... for reasons beyond comprehension ala Susan Smith... simply wanted the baby out of the way. To that end, she and an accomplice arranged the incident at a place where there were no visible witnesses. The accomplice kills the baby, wounds her, then runs away as she starts screaming for help. One neighbor who ran out after hearing shots/screams saw ONE person fitting her description running away. Not two.

    Anyway, all conjecture based on a supposedly grieving mother's inconsistent behavior, and my own personal creep-O-meter.

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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    IF the mother is involved... and there's no way to know that beyond the fact that her tearless cry-stop-cry routine was creepy... I doubt her own wounds were self-inflicted. A theory could be made that the mother... for reasons beyond comprehension ala Susan Smith... simply wanted the baby out of the way. To that end, she and an accomplice arranged the incident at a place where there were no visible witnesses. The accomplice kills the baby, wounds her, then runs away as she starts screaming for help. One neighbor who ran out after hearing shots/screams saw ONE person fitting her description running away. Not two.

    Anyway, all conjecture based on a supposedly grieving mother's inconsistent behavior, and my own personal creep-O-meter.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Honestly being from Chicago nothing shocks me anymore... I really cant come up with a rational theory here...

    I don't know how many times I have seen mothers on TV crying about their kids that were murdered 8 hours after it happened...

    This was a baby tho, and the perp shot the baby in the face - I haven't heard of (or could even imagine) something like this.

    This is so awful it just pisses me off and makes me question humanity as a race.

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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Who could shoot this poor little baby boy????

    There is no name in the English language to describe the psychopath that killed this little boy.


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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Well that's convenient.
    Or... you know... true.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    The video of her and the way she intermittently cried with eyes looking down every now and then reminds me of Susan Smith. She looked and cried just like Susan Smith, it's like an old version of her coming out of the prison. Her long discourse about lethal injection for juvenile tried as an adult is so out of place for a grieving mother of such magnitude as if she was advocating for death penalty and not grieving for her murdered baby. Just saying ...
    Another thing she said was "When you have a baby, you spend all your money on babies. They’re expensive."

    That seems like an odd thing for a grieving mother to say.

    Makes me wonder if she is the same Sherry West from the Philadelphia "house of horrors" abortion clinic case. She does kinda resemble her.

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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Just thought I'd put this here:

    Police arrest 2 teens in Ga. baby killing

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    Pretty much everything points to parents wanting to KEEP their children's belongings. Not cleaning out the kid's room before his body is even cold. Something REALLY doesn't look right about this now.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Another thing she said was "When you have a baby, you spend all your money on babies. They’re expensive."

    That seems like an odd thing for a grieving mother to say.

    Makes me wonder if she is the same Sherry West from the Philadelphia "house of horrors" abortion clinic case. She does kinda resemble her.
    Initially when I heard the story on a radio show I took the mother's story at face value and was outraged at the young perpetrators for such senseless violence against a little helpless baby. Then when the radio host played the mother's interview on the air, even though I didn't visually see her body language, the way she described the incident, the tone of voice and her manner of crying gave me pause and in the back of my mind I said, "This sounded like Susan Smith all over again!" Sure enough, when I see the Youtube interview of her posted in this thread, it definitely reminded me of Susan Smith.

    I know it's too early at this point to say for sure she or her accomplish was involved and people may grief differently when faced with such immense tragedy, but it is also true that people who have something to hide will unknowingly give out subtle body language and tone of voice that could be immediately pick up by the inner radar of other people.

    Our subconscious human mind cannot be voluntarily controlled or suppressed. The more we try to suppress the true feeling, the more awakward the appearance would be and will come to suface in the involuntary expressions of the muscles of the face, the eyes, the vocal cord and the body movement.

    At this point, I am more concerned of the violation of the rights of all the black teenagers in that town that fit the so general of a description given by this woman. I'm very concerned that the two youngsters could be so easily arrested based sorely on merely fitting the general description and identification by the woman.

    If the police wished to use pictures of black teenagers for her to identify, they should at least start first with using pictures of teenagers who have solid alibi, such as juveniles who were in custody at that time, so that if she picked any of the two, the police would know she was either mistaken or she was making a false identification. That would at the very least tell them that she is not dependable in that regard.

    Another thing the police should do is to go to the crime scene where she said the shooting occurred and look for blood splatter and blood trails leading from there to where she said she went to the yard of a house to give CPR.

    Also, the police should look for the spent cartridge and the bullet that should hit the ground given the shot was fired downward at the baby's face while he was in the stroller. At the downward angle the bullet should exit the baby's head and hit the ground thus making a fresh dent in the ground near where the stroller was.

    It's hard for me to believe the shooter would miss the adult head and her big body but was square on in hitting the baby to the face after the struggle with trying to snatch her purse and shooting at her. Why would she endanger herself and her baby by hanging on to her purse?

    There are a lot of questions I can't help but to wonder out loud. Obviously, there are many on the internet that had already jumped on the two arrested teenagers and calling for their execution. But, I just want to caution the people to hold their horses because there are still many unanswered questions .... and a general description that fit just about any black teenagers does not a guilty made.
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