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    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Good points. My angle here (besides all the armchairing going on IE the mother must have done it because she acted in contradiction of the psych paper I read last week) is that we are currently in the midst of trying to make wide sweeping laws to limit weapons for people who do not commit the majority of crimes with them. In this case we have several components of where the majority actually do occur, young black men with pistols. As much as people on a debate forum love to argue I get very little response on this. From my side I am being somewhat hyperbolic. We can see statistically where and by who gun murders occur, and yet the new batch of laws do not address them. I expected people to jump on the violation of people's rights involved with going door to door in poor neighborhoods to collect illegal guns, but they have not which is troubling in itself. Doing so, while it may be effective in curbing gun crime, would still be violating people's rights by illegal search and other issues. My point is that the proposed new laws would violate these same rights, and since the administration is willing to violate personal rights they should do it in an effective manner. Nobody has bit.

    So don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping to the conclusion that the alleged shooter did it because he is black. I do however think that the same boy (or man, depending on your perspective) showed a serious lack of human compassion with the ability to point blank shoot an infant in the face. Holy ****. I would bet there are trained soldiers who couldn't do that. That alone says we have serious societal problems, be they limited to poor black neighborhoods or not. This case needs to carefully studied for ways to fix this problem. It is not going to be quick or easy, but THIS is where we need to start, not with bans. It is clear he has a loving mother, she lied and went to jail trying to protect him. Has there been any mention of his father?
    How do you presume to know that skin color is the issue here? You seem to be saying that if ALL things are equal the guy with black skin is likely to be the criminal in a gun crimes. Skin color, in and of itself, determines behavior? I don't buy it. I don't buy that at all.










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    I've been to Brunswick a few times. It's a completely bigoted, backwards town. It wouldn't surprise me at all if racial slurs were used which provoked the attack. Let's allow the facts to come to light before we rally the lynch mobs here.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Good thing the baby wasn't black and the suspect white or we would be dealing with a hate crime.

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    Doing life as prison pass-arounds works for me for those two
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yes, by all means, a racial slur is a good reason to kill someone's baby. For God's sake.
    I've been called racial slurs by both blacks and whites and even treated with disdain, insulted and threatened for being an American that for me was far more offensive. None of it made me want to kill anybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    The Supreme Court rules last session minors can't get life without parole.
    Exactly. Neither will get life, or death.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    How do you presume to know that skin color is the issue here? You seem to be saying that if ALL things are equal the guy with black skin is likely to be the criminal in a gun crimes. Skin color, in and of itself, determines behavior? I don't buy it. I don't buy that at all.
    You missed my intent there. What I'm saying is it takes a stone cold killer to shoot an infant in the face, and what we need to do is figure out how that happened. That and we know that the majority of shootings are black on black in poor neighborhoods, and we need to figure that out to. It's not just poverty, there are plenty of very poor areas that do not see this kind of violence.

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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    You missed my intent there. What I'm saying is it takes a stone cold killer to shoot an infant in the face, and what we need to do is figure out how that happened. That and we know that the majority of shootings are black on black in poor neighborhoods, and we need to figure that out to. It's not just poverty, there are plenty of very poor areas that do not see this kind of violence.
    Maybe the percentage of non-white poor people is higher when compared to poor white people.










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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Exactly. Neither will get life, or death.
    The sad reality is there is a major dysfunction in many lower income families. Due to centuries of discrimination certain segments of the American population had a legitimately classified disadvantage economically so in efforts to help, politicians came up with the idea to offer financial assistance to these groups. Other politicians said absolutely not, should hard working tax-payers be required to support families where there's a able-bodied man in the home. The compromise reached was financial assistance to the disadvantaged on the condition no father is around so Dad had to go. Some boys are naturally wired to need a strong male authority figure to hug them when they do good and spank their little butts when they do wrong, something these boys should have had at ages 3 to 7 or they grow up not respecting authority or anybody else. However, these boys didn't have that due to the multi-generalitional epidemic culture of absentee fatherism created by government policies that started in the 1970s that made it "normal" for there to be no Dad as a condition the poor had to accept in order for their children to eat food. 40 years later thugs who never had a Dad to lovingly discipline them because Dad was banned from the home are not only lives lost themselves but are terrorizing the American people including shooting babies at point blank range.

    Tragically, I question much can be done for many of these thugs created by government beyond locking them up as long as possible and hope they have a life changing Jesus experience or die in prison before they're released to further terrorize the public. For those who can be rescued before its too late, we should support efforts to offer the best educational opportunities possible (which doesn't mean keep adding more money to the most horrible educational opportunities possible) and support and encourage positive mentoring and role-modeling of those with whom these kids can best identify with as father-figures in the absence of having a father of their own and life changing Jesus experiences before they engage in crime.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I've been called racial slurs by both blacks and whites and even treated with disdain, insulted and threatened for being an American that for me was far more offensive. None of it made me want to kill anybody.
    if a racial slur makes you want to kill someone, you are an animal and the slur was probably accurate
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