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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why would you need an autopsy if the cause of death is undeniable?
    AFAIK it is normal procedure for any sudden death, especially a murder or suicide here.

    I would have thought this were true in the US as well.

    It may be for verification of facts, and sometimes for additional information to determine whether other factors could have contributed to a death.
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    I can't help but think of Lindy Chamberlain here guys. She was crucified for not behaving as a "stereotypical" grieving mother. Sentenced to life imprisonment, seperated from her children and family and suffered three decades of vilification before the coroner officially amended Azarias death certificate to show that the cause of death was actually as the result of being attacked and taken by a dingo.

    That poor woman.

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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    I can't help but think of Lindy Chamberlain here guys. She was crucified for not behaving as a "stereotypical" grieving mother. Sentenced to life imprisonment, seperated from her children and family and suffered three decades of vilification before the coroner officially amended Azarias death certificate to show that the cause of death was actually as the result of being attacked and taken by a dingo.

    That poor woman.
    No doubt we should have empathy for the family of this murdered child. However, this part of the story disturbs me greatly....

    "Glassey says her mother is bipolar and has schizophrenic tendencies. She believes her mother is on medication but could not tell me any prescriptions specifically."

    If this is true, and the mother is not on meds, we can not trust a thing coming out of the mom's mouth.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    I can't help but think of Lindy Chamberlain here guys. She was crucified for not behaving as a "stereotypical" grieving mother. Sentenced to life imprisonment, seperated from her children and family and suffered three decades of vilification before the coroner officially amended Azarias death certificate to show that the cause of death was actually as the result of being attacked and taken by a dingo.

    That poor woman.
    I've always felt that this is an incredibly unfair... and inaccurate... standard to place upon a person. "So-and-so didn't grieve in an approved manner".

    People are different. There is no single "correct" manner in which to act or react. Some people break down. Some people go silent and 'numb'. I once read an account of a woman who jumped up and started cleaning the house when informed that her husband had been murdered, and it had nothing to do with her feeling the house needed cleaning.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    I can't help but think of Lindy Chamberlain here guys. She was crucified for not behaving as a "stereotypical" grieving mother. Sentenced to life imprisonment, seperated from her children and family and suffered three decades of vilification before the coroner officially amended Azarias death certificate to show that the cause of death was actually as the result of being attacked and taken by a dingo.

    That poor woman.
    Maybe she shouldn't have fed her baby to a dingo.

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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    I can't help but think of Lindy Chamberlain here guys. She was crucified for not behaving as a "stereotypical" grieving mother. Sentenced to life imprisonment, seperated from her children and family and suffered three decades of vilification before the coroner officially amended Azarias death certificate to show that the cause of death was actually as the result of being attacked and taken by a dingo.

    That poor woman.
    We also must look at all possibilities given the hasty circumstance of the case with no eyewitness and no physical evidence yet to tie the two juveniles whose whole life is at stake based solely by West's identification which is travesty of justice if the woman is hiding something.

    Not every contrary to "stereotypical" grieving mother turned out to be Lindy Chamberlain. There are more Susan Smith that did not behave as "stereotypical" grieving mother that turned out to be right on for the suspicious call. So, don't just dismiss everything.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    We also must look at all possibilities given the hasty circumstance of the case with no eyewitness and no physical evidence yet to tie the two juveniles whose whole life is at stake based solely by West's identification which is travesty of justice if the woman is hiding something.

    Not every contrary to "stereotypical" grieving mother turned out to be Lindy Chamberlain. There are more Susan Smith that did not behave as "stereotypical" grieving mother that turned out to be right on for the suspicious call. So, don't just dismiss everything.
    I think the point was that "conviction" even in the court of public opinion, should be based on something more credible than "she didn't react how I expected"

    As I mentioned earlier, the situation is about as far removed from what most of us have experienced as to make our expectations of how she should react rather meaningless

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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I think the point was that "conviction" even in the court of public opinion, should be based on something more credible than "she didn't react how I expected"

    As I mentioned earlier, the situation is about as far removed from what most of us have experienced as to make our expectations of how she should react rather meaningless
    That's true if the two juveniles who were arrested and charged that quickly were based on credible probable cause and at lest some physical evidence that linked them to it. So far as I know, the whole case is based solely on her identification of one juvenile based on the photo line-up after police checked through school records of absentees. As far as I know, absentee from school isn't a legit probable cause to arrest/charge the two with murder and harassed the family with arrest.

    So, the accuser who pointed the finger that results in the two being charged has to be under scrutiny also at this point until someone can show me a legit probable cause and physical evidence linking the two juvenile defendants. At this point, I am more concerned about the Constitutional rights of the two juveniles than the grieving mother, no matter what kind of poor and bad upbringing the two juveniles were raised in as taunted by many on the internets willing to boil or hang this two kids as if they were guilty already.

    When someone's Constitutional right is violated, it is a matter of public opinion, I hope. At this point, it needs to have a balance and question everything.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    That's true if the two juveniles who were arrested and charged that quickly were based on credible probable cause and at lest some physical evidence that linked them to it. So far as I know, the whole case is based solely on her identification of one juvenile based on the photo line-up after police checked through school records of absentees. As far as I know, absentee from school isn't a legit probable cause to arrest/charge the two with murder and harassed the family with arrest.
    If she ided them from pictures then the arrest was based on more than simply missing school

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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    If she ided them from pictures then the arrest was based on more than simply missing school
    You are accepting her account. One must examine her story and the crime scene to see if it's what it is. She claimed one of the juvenile shot at the ground before shooting at her leg and her head but missed while trying to grab her pulse which apparently she was not letting it go. Then she claimed the juvenile went around and shot at the head of her baby in the stroller.

    There was no mention whether the police did a crime scene investigation to the location where West claimed the fatal encounter took place. There should be some bullet hole depressions on the ground and possible blood splatter to verify her account as there was no eye-witness that saw the shooting, which occurred in a residential neighborhood at 9 am in the morning.

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