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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    A scum of the earth low life shoots a baby in the face during a armed robbery ?

    If they want to start a race issue over that then bring it on.
    It will happen. I'm surprised Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton aren't already here. They may be on the way. Too much anger down here over Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis. Something like this is bound to stir this kind of garbage up.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I know plenty of people that didn't get what they need at home and didn't grow up to be murderers.

    I think, regardless of a kid's home life, that the appeal of that, "thug life", is far more attractive to every kid's instinct to rebel. I think we're all just as susceptable to falling into that trap, if exposed to it. Does home training make a difference? Sure it does, but sometimes the gang life outweighs the home training.

    I don't think there's any hard and fast rule as to why kids become invovled become involved in this crap and I could list a dozen, or more, reasons why I think it happens, but your mileage may vary.
    Well, your point is well-taken, but of my friends who came from poor backgrounds who were also minorities, the common factor seems to be good and strong parenting, by a mother and/or father who not only expected, but demanded respectful behavior, regardless of how much their kids wanted to rebel, and the parents stayed on top of their childrens' activities and social lives, like a duck on a junebug. You don't have to have great parents to have a good and honest life, but it gives you a much better chance at succeeding to have strong and loving parental support.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Sorry but I've got to disagree with you there.

    Home life, especially at early ages is key in discouraging your kids away from gangs, crime and stupid and destructive fads.

    Kids look for in their community what they're not getting at home. There are statistics on how many people that wind up in prison ( sorry can't link to it ) that grew up in broken, abusive and dysfunctional homes and its astounding.

    Sure you would have the exception, but not whats happening inplaces like South Chicago.

    And parents learn from their parents how to raise children efdectively, which explains the perpetual amount of crime and poverty that seems to go on in inner city neighborhoods.

    My daughter won her district in Hurdles last year and came in second on the 100 meter dash.

    The girl that beat her in the 100m was amazingly talented, could have gone to any school under a full scholarship. I took one look at her mother and knew it was a lost cause.

    Where is she this year ? Dropped out of school and pregnant.
    I'm not saying it doesn't help. Just that it isn't a gaurantee. I have a brother and a sister doing time for drug related crimes and they recieved the same home training that I did.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, your point is well-taken, but of my friends who came from poor backgrounds who were also minorities, the common factor seems to be good and strong parenting, by a mother and/or father who not only expected, but demanded respectful behavior, regardless of how much their kids wanted to rebel, and the parents stayed on top of their childrens' activities and social lives, like a duck on a junebug. You don't have to have great parents to have a good and honest life, but it gives you a much better chance at succeeding to have strong and loving parental support.
    I'm a minority that came from a poor community and I saw several different scenarios evolve.

    My point, is that home training isn't the make, or break factor.

    These kids can't get a job, because of the labor laws, Obamacare and minimum wage being so high. If they had a chance to get a job, there's a chance they would be developing a work ethic vice being common street punks.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Source for that claim?
    Ummm, it isn't news. It's information that's been out for quite some time.

    In 2010, 40.8 percent of all births were to unmarried women. This level compares with 33.2 percent in 2000 and 18.4 percent in 1980 (Table C). Within age groups, 88 percent of births to teenagers and 63 percent of births to women aged 2024 were nonmarital. One in five births to women aged 30 and over were to unmarried women. The proportions of nonmarital births vary widely among population subgroups. In 2010, these proportions were 17 percent for API, 29 percent for non-Hispanic white, 53 percent for Hispanic, 66 percent for AIAN, and 73 percent for non-Hispanic black births.
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_01.pdf
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Ummm, it isn't news. It's information that's been out for quite some time.

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_01.pdf
    Thanks Lizzie, whats an AIAN? Asian?
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

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    Thanks Lizzie, whats an AIAN? Asian?
    American Indian or Alaska native.

    (and you're welcome. I thought it was common knowledge)
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    These kids can't get a job, because of the labor laws, Obamacare and minimum wage being so high. If they had a chance to get a job, there's a chance they would be developing a work ethic vice being common street punks.
    I call bullsh1t on this. These kids can't get a job because they walk in with a street thug mentality, with their pants halfway down their ass and ballcaps turned around sideways. Is it wrong to stereotype someone based on the way they dress? Maybe. But having ran a business before, I'd hire a kid 9 times out of 10 if he walked in dressed normally with a decent attitude, as opposed to someone who would pop a cap in my ass if I didn't hire him.
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    Re: Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    It will happen. I'm surprised Jesse Jackson
    and Al Sharpton aren't already here. They may be on the way. Too much anger down here over Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis. Something like this is bound to stir this kind of garbage up.
    Lets hope cooler heads prevail.

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