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    New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Major kudos to the New Hampshire House. Hopefully this will push through the rest of the state government and then go viral to other states.


    House votes to prohibit prison privatization, bill moves to Senate for review

    The House on Thursday voted to forbid the executive branch from privatizing the state prison system, saying that to do so would shirk the stateís constitutional responsibility to rehabilitate inmates.

    The 197-136 roll call by the Democratic -controlled House sent House Bill 443 to the Senate, where Republicans hold a slim, 13-11 majority and the billís fate is uncertain, at best.
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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Why can private prisons not be rehabilitative?

    IDK--we ship excess prisoners all over the place. I doubt the ones who land in Texas get much rehab, but stranger things have happened.

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    New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons
    i'm good with that.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Thank god there is sense somewhere in this country. Incarceration should not be about profit. If the State wants to put so many people in jail for victimless crimes, then it can pay for it; and if it can't afford it, then it's time to review some of those unnecessary laws.

    Keeping the prison system state run keeps the laws sane.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Why can private prisons not be rehabilitative?
    They are paid per prisoner they hold. There is a major fiscal incentive for recidivism. In fact, if they are a publicly traded company, it could be said that if they don't encourage recidivism they would be not looking out for the interest of the shareholders by going against the profit motive.

    A side note to anyone who thinks private prisons are the thing because it's not government running it therefore saves money... guess what entity pays the private prisions to run them?
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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Thank god there is sense somewhere in this country. Incarceration should not be about profit. If the State wants to put so many people in jail for victimless crimes, then it can pay for it; and if it can't afford it, then it's time to review some of those unnecessary laws.

    Keeping the prison system state run keeps the laws sane.
    What's cool is this crosses lines... far lefty's like myself are in bed with far right libertarians on this issue.
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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Thank god there is sense somewhere in this country. Incarceration should not be about profit. If the State wants to put so many people in jail for victimless crimes, then it can pay for it; and if it can't afford it, then it's time to review some of those unnecessary laws.

    Keeping the prison system state run keeps the laws sane.
    Prisons should be self sufficient. As much as possible, anyway. Prisons should have to grow their own food, labor provided by the prisoners, of course. They should have their own livestock, dairies, fields for crops. If they have a bad year, then it looks like the prisoners will have to miss a few meals.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Prisons should be self sufficient. As much as possible, anyway. Prisons should have to grow their own food, labor provided by the prisoners, of course. They should have their own livestock, dairies, fields for crops. If they have a bad year, then it looks like the prisoners will have to miss a few meals.
    If the state wants to lock up people for selling weed, then it should take the responsibility of feeding them.
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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Prisons should be self sufficient. As much as possible, anyway. Prisons should have to grow their own food, labor provided by the prisoners, of course. They should have their own livestock, dairies, fields for crops. If they have a bad year, then it looks like the prisoners will have to miss a few meals.
    If the State takes away your freedom then it's responsible for providing for you, unless you don't believe in the Constitution of the United States.

    You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't create retributive laws and then not take responsibility for the number of people you lock up. You either reduce the laws or increase funding.

    Unless of course you believe in Stalinism. Then prisons are pretty much gulags run by survival of the fittest.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Major kudos to the New Hampshire House. Hopefully this will push through the rest of the state government and then go viral to other states.

    House votes to prohibit prison privatization, bill moves to Senate for review

    The House on Thursday voted to forbid the executive branch from privatizing the state prison system, saying that to do so would shirk the state’s constitutional responsibility to rehabilitate inmates.

    The 197-136 roll call by the Democratic -controlled House sent House Bill 443 to the Senate, where Republicans hold a slim, 13-11 majority and the bill’s fate is uncertain, at best.
    I agree with this.Corrections and law enforcement duties should not be done by private companies. Prison should be about punishment and a little bit of rehabilitation, not profit. People should be put into prison because they deserve to be there not because they might make some company money.
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