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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

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    I didn't know the War on Drugs was a liberal invention. Could have sworn it was started by a right wing commie hater like Nixon.
    Is this thread about prisons, or about drug laws?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    The fact that criminals exist is completely irrelevant to the State being responsible for creating basic living standards in prison.

    Please give reasons why you think the State should be not responsible for maintaining the welfare of the prisoners in its custody, and that it's okay to pass the buck to a private corporation.
    I never said they shouldn't. But hey, I didn't expect the Libbos to actually discuss my comments, only invent their own interpretation.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Major kudos to the New Hampshire House. Hopefully this will push through the rest of the state government and then go viral to other states.


    House votes to prohibit prison privatization, bill moves to Senate for review

    The House on Thursday voted to forbid the executive branch from privatizing the state prison system, saying that to do so would shirk the stateís constitutional responsibility to rehabilitate inmates.

    The 197-136 roll call by the Democratic -controlled House sent House Bill 443 to the Senate, where Republicans hold a slim, 13-11 majority and the billís fate is uncertain, at best.
    Thank heaven. All private prisons do is warehouse them and put them in isolation which creates madness and then releases them to the public. Course, they take three times the monies to house prisoners as state prisons use to rehabilitate them with job trades and paying them a fair wage so they have money when they leave. They also get to complete high school and possibly take some courses toward a college degree.
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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Thank heaven. All private prisons do is warehouse them and put them in isolation which creates madness and then releases them to the public. Course, they take three times the monies to house prisoners as state prisons use to rehabilitate them with job trades and paying them a fair wage so they have money when they leave. They also get to complete high school and possibly take some courses toward a college degree.
    That should end immediately.
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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That should end immediately.
    You are in the wrong country. If you want free prison labor there are many other countries for you.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That should end immediately.
    Because? You don't think the prisons need a dishwasher? Cooks for their meals? Gardeners for their grounds? Woodworking shops to repair their equipment? A mechanic shop to repair state vehicles?
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    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Because? You don't think the prisons need a dishwasher? Cooks for their meals? Gardeners for their grounds? Woodworking shops to repair their equipment? A mechanic shop to repair state vehicles?
    I don't think they should get paid, unless of course the prison is producing goods and turns a profit. At that point, I could see the prisoners getting a share of the profits, to be put into a savings account accesible after their release.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't think they should get paid, unless of course the prison is producing goods and turns a profit. At that point, I could see the prisoners getting a share of the profits, to be put into a savings account accesible after their release.
    Well their labor without profit could reduce prison costs because they don't have to buy in or outsource for the materials they are making in prison for themselves.
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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't think they should get paid, unless of course the prison is producing goods and turns a profit. At that point, I could see the prisoners getting a share of the profits, to be put into a savings account accesible after their release.
    I think they would have to pay outsiders to do the work inside the prison so use that budget to pay the prisoners. It's of course only for those model prisoners who are not violent. Nothing wrong with letting a guy trying to do his time improving himself to leave with some money to get back into society and to have a trade to go for, as well.
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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Well their labor without profit could reduce prison costs because they don't have to buy in or outsource for the materials they are making in prison for themselves.
    No profit means no payroll for the prisoners. Period.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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