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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    There's no rehabilitation going on in prisons now. They lack funds to do it, is the excuse right before the state privatizes and then pays the private corporations three times the amount the state was paying to actually rehabilitate prisoners before the cutbacks.
    All the things you propose are already in place. Why isn't rehabilitation going on?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Major kudos to the New Hampshire House. Hopefully this will push through the rest of the state government and then go viral to other states.


    House votes to prohibit prison privatization, bill moves to Senate for review

    The House on Thursday voted to forbid the executive branch from privatizing the state prison system, saying that to do so would shirk the stateís constitutional responsibility to rehabilitate inmates.

    The 197-136 roll call by the Democratic -controlled House sent House Bill 443 to the Senate, where Republicans hold a slim, 13-11 majority and the billís fate is uncertain, at best.
    Canada is moving in the opposite direction, although slowly. There are very few things in life that can be done better by a government bureaucrat than by a business person concerned about the cost of pencils and paper clips. It matches the old saying: "take care of the pennies, and the dollars will take care of themselves".

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Canada is moving in the opposite direction, although slowly. There are very few things in life that can be done better by a government bureaucrat than by a business person concerned about the cost of pencils and paper clips. It matches the old saying: "take care of the pennies, and the dollars will take care of themselves".
    That is generally true. The problem with this is that the government is funding the prison. I haven't seen to many businesses with large government contracts that count the pencils and paper clips.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    All I have heard about private prisons has been more bad than good. So this is welcome news.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    No it is not. If you want a better society and not one where you imprision as much as we do for no apparent gains... you work through rehabilitation. If you want a punishment system, congrats... you got it and you got a nation who puts more of its population in prison than any other nation on earth.
    I agree with you but prison is not a "rehabilitation center" it's punishment. If it wasn't people wouldn't use language like "you need to pay your debt to society."

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Is this thread about prisons, or about drug laws?
    It's about governments finally being called out for making up too many laws to satisfy corporate prisons.
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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    That is generally true. The problem with this is that the government is funding the prison. I haven't seen to many businesses with large government contracts that count the pencils and paper clips.
    That may be true, but then when they have a fixed price contract that business is perfectly free to waste its profits on excess pencils and paper clips if they let their management and employees do so. In that case, the government's bottom line doesn't change.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    All the things you propose are already in place. Why isn't rehabilitation going on?
    Because, private corporations are in charge of the prisons and they were created to make profits, not help people.
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's about governments finally being called out for making up too many laws to satisfy corporate prisons.
    Which laws have been made up to satisfy corporate prisons? Drug laws existed long before the idea of privitizing prisons came about.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: New Hampshire House Votes To Prohibit Private Prisons

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Because, private corporations are in charge of the prisons and they were created to make profits, not help people.
    I don't disagree, which is why I never suggested that prisons should be privatized.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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