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    Re: US Marine kills two colleagues at Quantico base

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, even though soldiers are more disciplined and well behaved they still don't let them carry guns around without special authorization. So why would we just let anyone have guns outside of military installations?
    Because they aren't military installations.
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    Re: US Marine kills two colleagues at Quantico base

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    I trust the government to do everything it can to attain infinite control.
    Nice avoidance of the question.
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    Re: US Marine kills two colleagues at Quantico base

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Because they aren't military installations.

    Yes, the military evidently takes gun safety much more seriously.
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    Re: US Marine kills two colleagues at Quantico base

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, the military evidently takes gun safety much more seriously.
    Actually, it was President Clinton that imposed the current regulations. While he was Commander in Chief at the time, it was at the beginning of his term and he had no military service going in.

    I don't know too many people in any branch of the military that feel the current regs make things safer.

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    Re: US Marine kills two colleagues at Quantico base

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    Actually, it was President Clinton that imposed the current regulations. While he was Commander in Chief at the time, it was at the beginning of his term and he had no military service going in.

    I don't know too many people in any branch of the military that feel the current regs make things safer.
    The Commander in Chief is the head of the military. And if it would make things safer for everyone to carry, why didn't they drop the gun control when there was a new Commander in Chief?
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    Re: US Marine kills two colleagues at Quantico base

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Nice avoidance of the question.
    I thought so as well.

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    Re: US Marine kills two colleagues at Quantico base

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If they are disciplined and well behaved why are they not allowed to carry guns?
    Are you, of all people, really astonished that the military leadership could make a poor decision?

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    Re: US Marine kills two colleagues at Quantico base

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    Actually, it was President Clinton that imposed the current regulations. While he was Commander in Chief at the time, it was at the beginning of his term and he had no military service going in.

    I don't know too many people in any branch of the military that feel the current regs make things safer.
    I don't. It's ridiculous that I can be safer off-base (where I can carry) than I am on.

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    Re: US Marine kills two colleagues at Quantico base

    YOu have to show proof of insrusnce and all that stuff. Have you ever noticed those DOD decals in people windshield.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If you live on base?

    I don't live on base and they just let me in...They scan my CAC wave me on through. I've never had to have special permission for my car.
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    Re: US Marine kills two colleagues at Quantico base

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, the military evidently takes gun safety much more seriously.
    No, evidently you don't understand the point (surprise surprise). The point is that military installations are:

    A) Safer due to the people, not the lack of guns. We don't have losers with 10 kid by 10 different women dealing drugs and having turf wars on military bases. That's the point Jerry and I are making. If you want to solve gun violence there is only one answer to it. Let's all have a utopian, medicated society that loses all need to be individuals.

    B) A military base is a protected area due to the very nature of what it is. It's a friggin military base. There are national security implications far beyond your scope. You see this as a social issue. It ceases to be a social issue aboard a military base. It is now an issue of national security more than social.

    C) Speaking of guns on military bases. You can go aboard MCB Camp Lejeune right now and I guarantee you will see hundreds, yes hundreds, of Marines carrying their issued M16A4 or M4 carbine around like it is a back pack. 5.56mm ammo is very easily accessible to all of us as well. I could go to the rifle range and simply keep all of my rounds if I wanted to. I could hide them in my pack and leave the range with them. Then, I could wait until the next time I go to the field to train, put them in a mag, and go to town. But, I don't and neither do any other Marines. Why? Because it's against our nature to inflict pain upon those we care about and are to protect. Once again, it's people that make a difference, not the guns.
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