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    Re: US plan calls for more scanning of private Web traffic, email

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    False choice.
    Not particularly. The bedrock, deep-down structure of the Internet is such that most of what happens on it is right out in the open, and the society that has been built upon it involves many "free" services used by millions of people -- services that pay the bills by selling demographic data by the metric ton. Even if the collection of such data or the tracking of our activities online became a class A felony, it would still be done -- only the data would be far more valuable, it would be skimmed by people with far more sinister intentions, and it would be collected under the metaphorical cover of darkness. Additionally, the face of the information superhighway would radically change as corporations scrambled to find a new financial model, which pretty much guarantees data collection will continue to be legal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    I mean, unless you're that technically proficient to avoid detection and "be off the grid" while still being online, which will get you on a list somewhere in the federal government to be watched when you eventually slip-up, the average person is not going to be able to avoid the dragnet that envelops the Internet and communication spectrum. It's too involved and complicated.
    What was that about false choices? I think you just offered me one. Technical proficiency isn't a requirement for protecting your privacy. There are a variety of software programs, many of them free to the public, that assist in making the process of defending yourself point-and-click. Furthermore, there are whole privacy protection networks out there operated by people like you and me, using make-it-so-simple-a-dog-could-do-it software.

    All you really have to do in order to protect your privacy better than 90% of the surfing public is:

    1) Care
    2) Do some reading
    3) Set up some software

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    In my estimation, the better route is for Americans to voice themselves in any fashion they can if they disapprove of it. The inward looking eye of the intelligence agencies on American people has gotten out of hand. I don't care if you're liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian or even neoconservative, I firmly believe that as a consensus, the American public has gotten tired of the War on Terrorism's domestic policies.
    Take a look around DP and ask yourself just how easily a consensus can be obtained here, where people communicate regularly. I mean, seriously? The American people are stirred up worse than a hornet's nest half the time, but with so many sticks swinging in so many different directions, most of them we're too busy attaching each other to even agree on the real culprits much less go after them.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: US plan calls for more scanning of private Web traffic, email

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Remember saying "this thread is such a fail"??
    Yes, do you know what that means? It means it didn't accomplish the faux outrage the OP wanted.

    It's synonymous,
    With what? "Nothing is happening"? I suggest you pick up a dictionary and look up "synonymous".

    you then clarified your position as saying you don't mind the private groups spy on the military...
    Mercs are not part of the military.

    Then I reminded you that the spying is on EVERYONE, and it is EVERYTHING that gets logged somewhere.
    That's not what's happening at all. The government doesn't care about those naked pics you send to your girlfriend. Did you read the article?

    You then called me paranoid... And said it's no big deal.. I should care about what some delusional child cares about my opinions, why again??
    This from the guy who thinks anyone cares what he's posting online enough to spy on him. Are you familiar with the phrase delusions of grandeur?
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    Re: US plan calls for more scanning of private Web traffic, email

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    This is starting to sound a lot like the eye of sauron. Quick! Chuck the ring into the sewer and watch to see who goes in after it.



    NOOOoooooooooooooo


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    US plan calls for more scanning of private Web traffic, email

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes, do you know what that means? It means it didn't accomplish the faux outrage the OP wanted.



    With what? "Nothing is happening"? I suggest you pick up a dictionary and look up "synonymous".
    Well, if that was what you intended, perhaps you should make your comments a little less ambiguous.


    Mercs are not part of the military.



    That's not what's happening at all. The government doesn't care about those naked pics you send to your girlfriend. Did you read the article?
    The scope of what gets tracked online goes well beyond this article...

    Oh and you only now just figured out that mercenaries can't be trusted??


    This from the guy who thinks anyone cares what he's posting online enough to spy on him. Are you familiar with the phrase delusions of grandeur?
    *sigh* whether or not anyone cares about what I am posting is irrelevant. That it gets tracked and logged, just like EVERYONE ELSE is a simple matter of fact.

    You pretending it's a joke and not really happening is the delusion, and shows that you don't seem to grasp that just because you don't have anything to hide doesn't mean that all the information gathered about you couldn't potentially be used against you.

    Is that happening?? No, not really... But the information is still being gathered, and since that information can remain on file indefinitely, who knows how this all will get used.

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    Re: US plan calls for more scanning of private Web traffic, email

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I call this precedent to start reading and tracking any individuals web or email activity...

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