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Guantanamo hunger strike growing

That doesn't make Gitmo "torture." What you're really saying is that taking someone out of a potentially inhumane situation (Eqypt, whatever) and putting them in a much more humane situation is somehow "torture" or at least equivalent to the inhumane prison conditions.

As for the hunger strikers, it's their choice; let them do whatever they wish. If that includes starving themselves to death, it's their own call.

Well in the case i mentioned the guy was taken from Afganistan, to Egypt to Guantanamo,.
 
If we wish to be a moral authority, we must adhere to principles.

Even when they're terrorists.

How do we know they are terrorists. Has any of those on hunger strike been tried and found guilty of crimes?
 
Hunger strikes or inflicted starvation? *shrugs* The world may never know.

Not saying America = NAZI state but nazi secret police used camps to starve people then shifted them to other camps saying they were "sick". Seeing as all this crap is secret how do we know this isnt going on under America's wings also? Shut the prisons down.

Most would prefer we shut down terrorism. I see far more people blaming Americans for their response to terrorism than blaming the terrorists themselves.
 
I hate when idiots try to say waterboarding isn't torture because they seen some guy pour a pitcher of water over some dudes face on the news. They haven't seen the 4 inch diameter piping they stick people under. That much water-flow is enough to kill a human.

Hate is not healthy.

No one has yet dies form water-boarding, but it has saved many lives.
 
That is not acceptable. It would be too easy for a secret prison with no public oversight to start murdering prisoners via starvation and blaming it on "their own rebelliousness". The place needs to be opened up to inspection by the public and they need to be fed.

Gitmo is hardly a secret. It's became a tourist mecca.
 
sorry what? You will have to explain yourself here as I'm not following your standard grant ranting's.

You made the claim that "Here was me thinking that the US was built on law, order and justice not mob rule thank god no one here has any political influence".

I've never seen you use these words in regard to the United States. I see statements like this often, from Europeans, and they are intended to not only criticize American policy but to add hypocrisy as well. You've not given an example of "mob rule" anywhere, and you can't.
 
You don't see how the fact the CIA took the guy to Eygpt anyhow negates the fact they took him there? really?

Ummm . . . what?
 
Wow some pretty disgraceful comments on here from so called "Americans". Here was me thinking that the US was built on law, order and justice not mob rule thank god no one here has any political influence.

Your federal govt set up Gitmo and runs it, tell me where the mod rule is?
 
Hate is not healthy.

No one has yet dies form water-boarding, but it has saved many lives.

Torture is not designed soley to kill, whether death happens as a result of the torture is a sign of how brutal the interrogators are. Torture is meant to inflict pain, to physically and mentally damage it's victims in order to break down the will to resist.

Water boarding is torture, it is subjecting the victim to feel the effects of drowning. It is torture.
 
Hunger strikes or inflicted starvation? *shrugs* The world may never know.

Not saying America = NAZI state but nazi secret police used camps to starve people then shifted them to other camps saying they were "sick". Seeing as all this crap is secret how do we know this isnt going on under America's wings also? Shut the prisons down.

How do we know it's going on the way you say?
 
Hate is not healthy.

No one has yet dies form water-boarding, but it has saved many lives.

Me and you do not know that unless you happen to be the overseer of these secret prisons?
 
Torture is not designed soley to kill, whether death happens as a result of the torture is a sign of how brutal the interrogators are. Torture is meant to inflict pain, to physically and mentally damage it's victims in order to break down the will to resist.

Water boarding is torture, it is subjecting the victim to feel the effects of drowning. It is torture.

Nobody died from water-boarding and it has saved many, many lives. That is the reality.

It is an excellent means of gaining much needed information and the terrorists have not complained. It is their defenders who do that.

If terrorists don't like water-boarding perhaps they should pursue other interests.
 
Most would prefer we shut down terrorism. I see far more people blaming Americans for their response to terrorism than blaming the terrorists themselves.

The truth is its both's fault. People may say that I hate America but in fact I love it. America breeds hatred with its foreign policies and others are too willing to use hatred as an excuse to do wrong. Im not saying ITS AMERICAS FAULT. But to say that our foreign policies (Overseas Contingency Operations) do not breed terrorists is dishonest.
 
Me and you do not know that unless you happen to be the overseer of these secret prisons?

In fact neither of knows what goes on in any prisons anywhere. We have to assume that laws are being followed and responsibilities carried out.

Why this interest in Gitmo?

Certainly there are other prisons around the world that have more serious problems than Gitmo. Why focus your attention on the well being of terrorists?

Mexico-Prison Conditions Criminal Justice System

Inside the UK's toughest youth prison - Mirror Online
 
Nobody died from water-boarding and it has saved many, many lives. That is the reality.

It is an excellent means of gaining much needed information and the terrorists have not complained. It is their defenders who do that.

If terrorists don't like water-boarding perhaps they should pursue other interests.

The point of torture is not to kill, it is to break the will to resist.

How many people were broken mentally due to constant waterboarding? How many took their own lives rather than relive the pain

We shatter the minds and destroy the very humainity of those we torture and you say we save lives because of it.

We have damaged more lives by torture than save, and we have lost the moral authority to condem the actions of far worse purpatraitors of torture, such as Uzbekistan and china.

And the prisioners at gitmo are complaining, that is the purpouse of the hunger strike!
 
The truth is its both's fault.

Really? How is terrorism America's fault? Do you know that terrorism, islamism,is going on throughout the world regardless of whether Americans are there or not?

People may say that I hate America but in fact I love it. America breeds hatred with its foreign policies and others are too willing to use hatred as an excuse to do wrong. Im not saying ITS AMERICAS FAULT.

In fact you just did.

But to say that our foreign policies (Overseas Contingency Operations) do not breed terrorists is dishonest.

Nonsense. This is the usual Blame America First propaganda. It happened with Communism as well.
 
How many people were broken mentally due to constant waterboarding?

Only three people were waterboarded, and it was not "constant."

How many took their own lives rather than relive the pain

All of them are still kicking.
 
The point of torture is not to kill, it is to break the will to resist.

That's not a bad definition.
How many people were broken mentally due to constant waterboarding? How many took their own lives rather than relive the pain

I don't know. Do you have the stats?

We shatter the minds and destroy the very humainity of those we torture and you say we save lives because of it.

Yes, I said that. Are you not aware of the history?
We have damaged more lives by torture than save, and we have lost the moral authority to condem the actions of far worse purpatraitors of torture, such as Uzbekistan and china.

You'll need stats to support your claims, or at least some knowledge of recent history.
 
Read more @: Guantanamo hunger strike growing - Americas - Al Jazeera English

More and more detainees in Guantanamo are on a hunger strike because they thought it was going to close but as we all know they have not. Im not surprised that no media outlet in the US is really reporting on this. [/FONT][/COLOR]

GREAT IDEA. If they starve to death then we don't have to waste the time trying them before executing them. BEAUTIFUL. Where do I send the note to tell them how much I support their right to starve themselves to death. Only problem is those pesky doctors trying to keep them alive.
 
In fact neither of knows what goes on in any prisons anywhere. We have to assume that laws are being followed and responsibilities carried out.

Why this interest in Gitmo?

Certainly there are other prisons around the world that have more serious problems than Gitmo. Why focus your attention on the well being of terrorists?

Mexico-Prison Conditions Criminal Justice System

Inside the UK's toughest youth prison - Mirror Online

"Don't throw stones if one lives in a glass house"

The very fact that gitmo exists means we cannot complain About how other country's run their prisons.

And just because they are terrorists that does not mean we should take away their humanity.
 
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