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    Re: Guantanamo hunger strike growing

    Guantanamo hunger strike - a problem that solves itself.

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    Re: Guantanamo hunger strike growing

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Uhhhhh, is Gitmo still open?
    Bush's legacy and Obama's art of playing dodgeball.

    Last week, the Obama administration imposed new arbitrary rules for Guantanamo detainees who have lost their first habeas corpus challenge. Those new rules eliminate the right of lawyers to visit their clients at the detention facility; the old rules establishing that right were in place since 2004, and were bolstered by the Supreme Court’s 2008 Boumediene ruling that detainees were entitled to a “meaningful” opportunity to contest the legality of their detention. The DOJ recently informed a lawyer for a Yemeni detainee, Yasein Khasem Mohammad Esmail, that he would be barred from visiting his client unless he agreed to a new regime of restrictive rules, including acknowledging that such visits are within the sole discretion of the camp’s military commander. Moreover, as SCOTUSblog’s Lyle Denniston explains:

    Besides putting control over legal contacts entirely under a military commander’s control, the “memorandum of understanding” does not allow attorneys to share with other detainee lawyers what they learn, and does not appear to allow them to use any such information to help prepare their own client for a system of periodic review at Guantanamo of whether continued detention is justified, and may even forbid the use of such information to help prepare a defense to formal terrorism criminal charges against their client.

    The New York Times Editorial Page today denounced these new rules as “spiteful,” cited it as “the Obama administration’s latest overuse of executive authority,”

    The Obama GITMO myth - Salon.com
    And, people thought Salon was a pro-Obama liberal rag.

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    Re: Guantanamo hunger strike growing

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well saying they are human beings, i care..
    Jerry Sandusky is a human being. I personally don't give two ****s about him.

    Being a human being isn't some cop out for an emotional appeal to pity, regardless of the circumstance.

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    Re: Guantanamo hunger strike growing

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    More and more detainees in Guantanamo are on a hunger strike because they thought it was going to close but as we all know they have not. Im not surprised that no media outlet in the US is really reporting on this. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Then let them all starve to death and solve the problem that way. I have zero sympathy.
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    Re: Guantanamo hunger strike growing

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah! I mean what the hell kind of country does a silly thing like keep its prisoners alive?
    We give them food. If they refuse it, screw 'em.
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    Re: Guantanamo hunger strike growing

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well saying they are human beings, i care..
    They're a bunch of murderous sleazeballs, they no longer count as human beings.
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    Re: Guantanamo hunger strike growing

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They're a bunch of murderous sleazeballs, they no longer count as human beings.
    Yea yumm saying only 1 Guantanamo prisoner has been convicted by US federal courts (Ahmed Ghalilani)
    only 6 of the 779 prisoners have been put before a military commission
    87 prisoners of the 166 (one-half) have been "cleared for transfer" by senior officials six US government agencies, but have not been released
    The majority are released with no charges against them... .

    I think we might be the "sleezeballs"


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    Re: Guantanamo hunger strike growing

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Then let them all starve to death and solve the problem that way. I have zero sympathy.
    Of course you do. You dont care about the rule of law.


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    Re: Guantanamo hunger strike growing

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Of course you do. You dont care about the rule of law.
    I care about stupidity and suffering the consequences of one's actions. If they refuse to eat, let them starve. It was their choice.
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    Re: Guantanamo hunger strike growing

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yea yumm saying only 1 Guantanamo prisoner has been convicted by US federal courts (Ahmed Ghalilani)
    only 6 of the 779 prisoners have been put before a military commission
    87 prisoners of the 166 (one-half) have been "cleared for transfer" by senior officials six US government agencies, but have not been released
    The majority are released with no charges against them... .

    I think we might be the "sleezeballs"
    11 years is too long to be held in a prison without a trial, even assuming that military rules apply. However, over 4 of those years have been under a CIC who promised to do something about it. After all, he is the head sleazeball.

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