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    Re: T.J. Lane Life Sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Really?

    I think some socialists would kill me for being a capitalist. I think some pro-choice groups would murder me for loving life..

    Some of these political gangs will take a life to spare a life...

    So this issue is not as cut and dry as it seems...

    If you want to call bull**** on that I have a name - "Che" Ernesto Guevara - yeah that killer that the peace loving dope-heads run around with on their shirts or tatted on their bodies.
    I am a social democrat. Never walked around with Che or supported him. I think he is more a pop culture image rather than an actual political inspiration with a lot of teens but that is a totally different issue.

    And I do think it is pretty cut and dry, get rid of the death penalty and the cost of justice will go down considerably. Jailing death penalty inmates is more expensive than regular prisoners, and then I am not even talking about the original trial, jury sequestration, cost for legal representation and all the appeals. Lets face it, a capital case costs way more than a regular life without parole, some studies show capital cases to be between 42% more expensive to easily more than double the cost.

    A study from Maryland has shown that their 5 executions cost the taxpayer 186 million dollars more than when normal life without parole sentences would have been asked.

    California is bleeding money from the death penalty costs. They could save billions by abolishing it.

    Even Texas has shown that (sorry but this is a bit older study) that at the time the study was done, Texas spent about 2.3 million dollars for every death penalty case, that was three times more expensive compared to imprisoning someone for 40 years in a single cell at the highest security level.
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    Re: T.J. Lane Life Sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Yes, and worse, when death penalty advocates learn how expensive it is to process someone through the entire capital punishment process, they argue it should be quicker and cheaper.

    So what's THAT going to do to the number of innocents who get fried, injected, gassed, or otherwise terminated?

    One can call themselves a conservative by supporting the death penalty but they certainly can't call themselves fiscal conservatives.
    Any innocent person that gets murdered by the state because it got a so called fair trial (whoopee if you are innocent, you got sentenced to death for something that you didn't do but the state feels it did it in a fair manner) is one too many. And it is almost certain that people have been put to death that were innocent and many more are suffering the indignation of sitting on death row completely innocent.
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    Re: T.J. Lane Life Sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I am a social democrat. Never walked around with Che or supported him. I think he is more a pop culture image rather than an actual political inspiration with a lot of teens but that is a totally different issue.

    And I do think it is pretty cut and dry, get rid of the death penalty and the cost of justice will go down considerably. Jailing death penalty inmates is more expensive than regular prisoners, and then I am not even talking about the original trial, jury sequestration, cost for legal representation and all the appeals. Lets face it, a capital case costs way more than a regular life without parole, some studies show capital cases to be between 42% more expensive to easily more than double the cost.

    A study from Maryland has shown that their 5 executions cost the taxpayer 186 million dollars more than when normal life without parole sentences would have been asked.

    California is bleeding money from the death penalty costs. They could save billions by abolishing it.

    Even Texas has shown that (sorry but this is a bit older study) that at the time the study was done, Texas spent about 2.3 million dollars for every death penalty case, that was three times more expensive compared to imprisoning someone for 40 years in a single cell at the highest security level.
    To be blunt and brief - I agree with you and I am personally against the death penalty. Too many people have been murdered IMO because of wrongful conviction.

    I suppose I would consider such a punishment if there was a video showing an individual committing a gruesome murder/crime. Outside of that killing people is not right. The system is extremely flawed and a lot of innocent people have been murdered because of mistakes...

    Imagine being at the wrong place at the wrong time and you end up on death row because you cant afford adequate council.. Then they kill you because you had a horrible lawyer...

    So yeah - I'm anti-death penalty...

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    Re: T.J. Lane Life Sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I like the life thing. So all through the life of the families, they can always at least try to get some answers should they feel the need to.
    Watching that video in the op, I can't help but notice the false bravado. The kids scared. No doubt about it.

    As to answers? Who knows what makes these guys tick? He brought a gun to school a d shot some kids. When asked why he did it, he had no answer. Is he a bad apple, a little crazy; was he abused...who knows?

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    Re: T.J. Lane Life Sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Watching that video in the op, I can't help but notice the false bravado. The kids scared. No doubt about it.

    As to answers? Who knows what makes these guys tick? He brought a gun to school a d shot some kids. When asked why he did it, he had no answer. Is he a bad apple, a little crazy; was he abused...who knows?
    Yea, same thing that I was thinking.

    The kid is scared ****less, and knows that his life is over.

    Seems that his father also had a long string of felony convictions, including murder.
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    Re: T.J. Lane Life Sentence

    When the cell door closes in Solitary and he realizes that not a single living person gives a crap whether he lives or dies alone in that cell it will begin to sink in.

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    Re: T.J. Lane Life Sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    As to the argument (from other posts) that keeping the guilty alive is too expensive, I would have to point out that the cost of a capital trial, including mandatory appeals, cost far more than keeping a person incarcerated for 100 years.

    Vengeance ain't cheap.
    It shouldn't cost anything close to what it does. The system is extremely wasteful. It should take about 5 minutes and $0 to strap him to a guillotine and pull the cord.
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    Re: T.J. Lane Life Sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Any innocent person that gets murdered by the state because it got a so called fair trial (whoopee if you are innocent, you got sentenced to death for something that you didn't do but the state feels it did it in a fair manner) is one too many. And it is almost certain that people have been put to death that were innocent and many more are suffering the indignation of sitting on death row completely innocent.
    I'm sorry Peter, but if you're actually Innocent then there is very little chance of you being convicted. Now, people being Not Guilty of the crime they were charged with is a different topic. Personally, I'm willing to see any number of not guilty individuals executed to ensure that we get all the guiilty ones executed as well. Individuals like this piece of trash do not deserve to continue breathing.

    Thankfully, real trash like this guy tend to get taken out by their fellow inmates a good deal of the time.

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    Re: T.J. Lane Life Sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
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    And now for the rest of the day I'l have the cock meat sandwich scene from Harold and Kumar Go To Guantanamo Bay stuck in my head.
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    Re: T.J. Lane Life Sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Funny, that people think that executing is cheaper than imprisonment.
    If done right, it would be. I can understand appeals for some cases where "guilt" or "intent" may be in question. However, in this instance, guilt is known, accepted, and in this punk's case he even mocks at it. Kill the ****ing punk.

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