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    Dems shelving assault weapons ban for now

    Citing the minimal support for legislation that would ban assault weapons, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said today that he would leave the proposal out of the gun violence bill he'll bring to the Senate floor. Instead, the assault weapons ban will be offered as an amendment to the bill, along with several other less popular ideas.

    "I have said time and time again I want people to have the ability to vote on assault weapons, mental health, safety in schools, federal trafficking, clips -- everything," Reid told reporters this afternoon. "But I cannot do that until I get a bill on the floor."

    Reid explained that he'll need to find a bill to bring to the Senate floor that has at least 60 votes of support -- enough to bypass a Republican filibuster and start debate. Once debate has started on that bill, the Senate can vote on amendments, such as the assault weapons ban authored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

    Feinstein's legislation passed through the Senate Judiciary Committee last week, but Reid explained today that it wouldn't clear the filibuster hurdle.

    "Right now her amendment, using the most optimistic numbers, has less than 40 votes. That's not 60," he said. It's more likely, Reid added, that he would bring to the floor one of the background check proposals currently in the works.

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    Good call, but I think his future optimism is unfounded. I don't see an AWB passing anytime soon.

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    Re: Dems shelving assault weapons ban for now

    Shocking....... I mean really, I'm floored by this revelation. I can't believe no one saw coming. I'm truly heart broken to see this shelved.



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    It would never pass the House anyway. This is little more than posturing to keep this the issue for the midterms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    It would never pass the House anyway. This is little more than posturing to keep this the issue for the midterms.
    Bill Clinton told them to not underestimate the pro-2nd Amendment folks. They did and they lost. Being from Arkansas, I think Clinton would know something about this.
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    Re: Dems shelving assault weapons ban for now

    Does anyone, I mean anyone, believe Reid will ever allow any Bill to a vote that he doesn't support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Does anyone, I mean anyone, believe Reid will ever allow any Bill to a vote that he doesn't support?
    I believe he will never allow a bill to come to the floor that will make the dems look bad when it goes down in flames and cause the GOP to gain seats by knocking off conservative dems next election.

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    It's the kind of thing that would have a better chance of passing if Democrats were in control of the Senate and the House so it makes sense to throw that part of the bill away.

    In any case, shelving it isn't a loss or a gain. It wouldn't have had a positive or negative effect on safety.

    They should really start genuinely tackling poverty if they want to put a real dent in crime, but that's not going to happen.

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    Re: Dems shelving assault weapons ban for now

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It's the kind of thing that would have a better chance of passing if Democrats were in control of the Senate and the House so it makes sense to throw that part of the bill away.

    In any case, shelving it isn't a loss or a gain. It wouldn't have had a positive or negative effect on safety.

    They should really start genuinely tackling poverty if they want to put a real dent in crime, but that's not going to happen.
    They've been tackling poverty for 40 years and all the effort has yielded, are more poor people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dems shelving assault weapons ban for now

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They've been tackling poverty for 40 years and all the effort has yielded, are more poor people.
    IMO, it's all about how you tackle poverty. There should be more of a long term focus on helping people get good jobs and skills. Too often we only help with money which is very short term and doesn't do much if anything to fix the problem.

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    Re: Dems shelving assault weapons ban for now

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They've been tackling poverty for 40 years and all the effort has yielded, are more poor people.
    Hence my use of the word "genuinely."

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