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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Amnesty is amnesty. Reagan was a RINO.
    He definitely blew it granting amnesty to Mexicans.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Isn't Rand Paul a Libertarian? I don't think Libertarians are against legal immigration.
    I don't think many people area against legal immigration.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Rand Paul has now become one of those politicians that has committed political suicide, but will be around for an annoyingly long time because the liberal media will now keep that body warm for as long as possible.
    Then how the heck did his father stay in office so many years?
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so now you and rand paul are wanting to reward them for their illegal acts
    Paul endorsed a "pathway to citizenship." Hardly the same thing as "reward."
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Always remember that, when debating, you are NEVER going to change the mind of the person you are debating, Your opponent is NEVER going to change his position.
    Many of my views have changed thanks to debate forums like this one. I think that is a very cynical (and unrealistic) view you have there.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Didn't Reagan give amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants in the 80s?

    WAS HE A RINO TOO !?!?
    Don't you dare speak blasphemy of the holy one!
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Amnesty is amnesty. Reagan was a RINO.
    This provides me with hope that ultimately, like weasles in a whole, the conservatives will eat themselves.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Paul endorsed a "pathway to citizenship." Hardly the same thing as "reward."
    i'm not sure that he did:
    Many news outlets, including The Washington Post, had reported that Paul would back a “path to citizenship” in his speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. Those reports started circulating Monday evening, when the Associated Press obtained an advance copy of Paul’s remarks.

    “The AP story was wrong, which spurred a lot of erroneous reports,” Paul’s office said in a statement. “He does not mention ‘path to citizenship’ in his speech at all.”

    One Paul adviser told The Post that the path Paul is endorsing does not make it any easier to attain citizenship than current law allows.
    “They would get into the back of the line and get no special privileges to do so,” said the adviser, who was not authorized to comment publicly. “What his plan is extending to them is a quicker path to normalization, not citizenship, and being able to stay, work and pay taxes legally.”
    he only wants non-citizens here to take the low wage jobs that would otherwise be performed by American citizens:
    Later Tuesday, Paul attempted to clarify his position on the citizenship question. “I didn’t use the word citizenship at all this morning,” he said. “Basically what I want to do is to expand the worker visa program, have border security and then as far as how people become citizens, there already is a process for how people become citizens. The main difference is I wouldn’t have people be forced to go home. You’d just get in line. But you get in the same line everyone is in.”
    Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status - The Washington Post
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    No, Reagan made the mistake of thinking the Liberal Congress would uphold their concurrent promise to secure the border.
    Reagan had his flaws, but being ignorant of division of labor between the branches of government was not one them. He knew that securing the border is not a job of the legislative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    we are now overrun with Mexicans.
    I know! They cook for us, they garden for us, move our furniture, buikld our houses, harvest our vegetables...Terrible. Worse than the Mongol Horde.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    after Reagan provided amnesty, less Hispanics voted for Reagan than before amnesty.
    Wow. I've heard about "Speedy Gonzalez", but I had no idea Hispanics could move back in time! (Reagan signed the Immgration Reform and Control Act on November 6, 1986. The second election Reagan won was on November 4. Of 1984).

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I don't think many people area against legal immigration.
    That's what I always thought. Before looking closer at the organizations like the NumbersUSA, the FAIR, the CIS (Center for Immigration Studies)...

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